Iridium

I think it's time to get an Iridium satellite phone. We're gong to have way
too much time away from cell sites.

Any suggestions as to a cruiser-friendly source of hardware and airtime?

Thanks,
Rusty

"Rusty" <blank> wrote in message
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>I think it's time to get an Iridium satellite phone. We're gong to have
>way
> too much time away from cell sites.
>
> Any suggestions as to a cruiser-friendly source of hardware and
> airtime?
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty


It's my observation that people who have to have a phone so they can
blabbermouth 24/7 while out cruising should just stay home. If you need
to be plugged in to the communications grid 24/7 you're not cut out for
cruising - just stay home and leave the waterways open for real
cruisers, please. Today's men are turning into girly men. Bunch of
sissies. Spend the money on a EPIRB instead. Cruise and try shutting
your mouth for a week or a month. You might learn something for the
first time in your life.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

> It's my observation that people who have to have a phone so they can
> blabbermouth 24/7 while out cruising should just stay home. If you need
> to be plugged in to the communications grid 24/7 you're not cut out for
> cruising - just stay home and leave the waterways open for real
> cruisers, please. Today's men are turning into girly men. Bunch of
> sissies. Spend the money on a EPIRB instead. Cruise and try shutting
> your mouth for a week or a month. You might learn something for the
> first time in your life.
>
Why are you so bitter? When hundreds of miles off shore, I could have
liked to talk to my daughter who was anxious about my safety as I was
singlehanding a rather large sailboat. It would have been something to
make her feel better.

I tried calling her on my EPIRB but the thing just blinked at me.

-paul

On Aug 1, 3:52 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invallid>
wrote:
....
> The disdain I hold others in is caused by their causing problems for me
> and other real self-reliant sailors by their not taking sailing
> seriously. ...

You want to explain exactly how it causes you a problem when I phone
my old dad from a remote Pacific Atoll to see if he's ok? I'm selfish
enough that I'd go cruising even if it meant that I couldn't call
home, but since I can why shouldn't I?

-- Tom.

<tsmwebb@> wrote in message
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> On Aug 1, 3:52 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invallid>
> wrote:
> ...
>> The disdain I hold others in is caused by their causing problems for
>> me
>> and other real self-reliant sailors by their not taking sailing
>> seriously. ...
>
> You want to explain exactly how it causes you a problem when I phone
> my old dad from a remote Pacific Atoll to see if he's ok? I'm selfish
> enough that I'd go cruising even if it meant that I couldn't call
> home, but since I can why shouldn't I?
>
> -- Tom.

You can do what pleases you. My point is something my dear old Dad
taught me before he died. He told me that if you try doing two things at
one time you'll end up doing neither well. So you can cruise and you can
telephone. But it's not the same as doing one or the other and doing it
well.

Wilbur Hubbard

>... So you can cruise and you can
> telephone. But it's not the same as doing one or the other and doing it
> well. ...

I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that I'm cruising less well
when, lets say, just for the sake of historical accuracy, I'm anchor
down in Kanton Atoll on a day when it's so calm I can't tell where the
air ends and the water starts and so hot that even the flies have
taken cover in the shade I call my father on my Iridium phone? Are
you telling me that this offends you in some way? Do we need to be
reduced to sail cloth pants and latitude sailing to be cruising
"well"?

-- Tom.

On Aug 1, 7:29 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invallid>
wrote:

> You can do what pleases you. My point is something my dear old Dad
> taught me before he died. He told me that if you try doing two things at
> one time you'll end up doing neither well. So you can cruise and you can
> telephone. But it's not the same as doing one or the other and doing it
> well.
>
> Wilbur Hubbard

Got to agree. Worse thaing that can happen to a man at sea is know
what is going on back on the beach. Once had a buddy who got a dear
jon letter at sea. He had another 60 days left befor the boat was
heading back. He was a walking xombie. Nearly killed a guy and later
himself cause he was day dreamming of some fuffy muffy. All he could
think about was that muffy back home with some Jody.
Bob

<brucedpaige@> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:29:52 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilburhubbard@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>
>>
>><tsmwebb@> wrote in message
>>news:1186020476.158447.296250@q3g2000prf.googleg ro...
>>> On Aug 1, 3:52 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invallid>
>>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> The disdain I hold others in is caused by their causing problems
>>>> for
>>>> me
>>>> and other real self-reliant sailors by their not taking sailing
>>>> seriously. ...
>>>
>>> You want to explain exactly how it causes you a problem when I phone
>>> my old dad from a remote Pacific Atoll to see if he's ok? I'm
>>> selfish
>>> enough that I'd go cruising even if it meant that I couldn't call
>>> home, but since I can why shouldn't I?
>>>
>>> -- Tom.
>>
>>You can do what pleases you. My point is something my dear old Dad
>>taught me before he died. He told me that if you try doing two things
>>at
>>one time you'll end up doing neither well. So you can cruise and you
>>can
>>telephone. But it's not the same as doing one or the other and doing
>>it
>>well.
>>
>>Wilbur Hubbard
>
>
> In other words, you can't walk and chew gum at the same time?
>
> Well, I don't suppose you can.
>
> Bruce in Bangkok
> (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

Words of wisdom from somebody who claims to be a world cruiser but who
spends all his time stuck in a marina and on the Internet 24/7. Did you
know, Bruce, that you're stuck in a marina in a part of the world most
cruisers say is one of the better cruising grounds. Why aren't you out
cruising? Seeing the sights by water? And, don't give me this monsoon
!

Wilbur Hubbard

On Aug 2, 11:08 am, "Rusty" <blank> wrote:
> First of all, thanks to Tom for his response to my question.
>
> Second, empathy is a human quality that allows one to place themselves in
> anothers shoes and try to understand their viewpoint.


TO do that interpersonal communication is needed and leads many times
on one concept: Uncertanty Reduction.
Whech means you get to know about the oter person. ANd many times my
worse fewrs are confirmed......... they are idots and girly men.

> What is 'Right' for
> one person is not the same as it is for another.

There ur wrong. There are crtain things that are simply dangerous or
wrong. your staring to sound like a cultural antropologist.

> Those with the human
> quality of empathy understand that. I must conclude Wilbur is something less
> than human.
>
> Third. This sure is entertaining!


Regarding who is the most qualified to sail.........................
unless some one here can step up and show me their OICNW indorsment on
their 500 ton license id say we are all rather luberly. Me included.
But mabe in another 360 days of deck service and 21 weeks of class. :)

Bob

>
> Thanks
> Rusty