Wines: WTN: Great night of white and red Burgundy

[DaleW]

So last night eight good geeks (ok, six good geeks, a couple of great
spouses) gathered at Crabtrees Kittle House for dinner and a little
tour around Burgundy. After a thunderstormy day, it was a beautiful
evening, and Betsy and I were lucky enough to be on side with gorgeous
outside view. It was really a convivial group, and everyone brought
some nice wines. We did the tasting menu, and a fine night ensued.

1998 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er
Fresh, young, giving. Very light, yet with depth and concentration on
finish. I really enjoyed this. A-/B+

2000 Domaine Leflaive "Les Pucelles" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
Pear and citrus fruit, just a bit of hazelnut/fish oil Coche-style
exoticism, good length, young. B+

(somewhere in here there was a delicious opener of crudo/sashimi, tuna
and an excellent white fish that I thought was hamachi but thought
after tasting maybe fluke, with a lime/cilantro sauce)

1995 Drouhin "Les Folatieres" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
My white. Bigger, rich, mature but not oxidized. Gio said it seemed
Batardish. Very nice wine, though I preferred the Chablis by a hair. B
+/A-

1991 Neillon "Les Vergers" Chassagne-Montrachet 1er
Kittle House has the best list north of city, and Dave spotted some
bargains compared to market, and we discussed whether to get this or a
Ramonet. I voted for this due to sentimental reasons (plus it was
great in 2000). Age is really showing on nose, oxidative/sherryish
notes, but it's considerably fresher on palate - definitely some
oxidative flavors of caramel and nuts, but also some chalky minerals,
flowers. I liked more 9 years ago, but this is classy if fading (I
think I may have liked more than table). B

A pretty good lineup of whites, and then we started with reds. About
then a diver scallop accented with curry on a bed of peas with mint
arrived, sounds weird, tasted delicious.

1996 Comte de Vogue Chambolle Musigny 1er
Young vines Musigny of course. Good acids, some tannins, perfumed.
Nice, but I thought just a touch clunky compared to its flightmate. B

1996 Rousseau "Les Cazetiers" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er.
Black cherries, earth, and a little grilled meat. Nice balance of
fruit, tannins, and acids. Tiny hint of brett, but well within my
tolerance level. Drinking well but with a future. I think I might
have been in minority in preferring to the Vogue. B+/A-

Next course was duck breast roasted with thyme, with little porcinis,
zucchini, and turnip.

1999 Mommesin Clos de Tart
Damn! Corked all to hell

1996 Rene Engel Clos de Vougeot
Big, ripe black cherry fruit framed by somewhat zippy acids, very nice
though I think time would do this good. B+

At some point a lamb chop accompanied by roast lamb neck and some
fennel arrived.

1998 Thierry Violot-Guillemard "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
Totally new producer to me, but I was quite impressed. Combined that
Pommard meaty masculinity with some real elegance. Some lead pencil/
graphite and minerals. Lovely midweight which went well with the food.
A-/B+

1980 Henri Boillot "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
Pretty sure my last bottle of this, but other than one grabbed by TCA
has been a consistent strong performer. Smoke, crushed cherries,
lighter older Burg with fresh acids keeping it lively. Again, elegant
(who'd have thought of both Pommards as oozing elegance?). As always,
I find this stunning on nose, good on palate. A-

This was supposed to be the end, but as the cheese (Epoisses, Pleasant
Ridge, plus a Portugese cheese I missed name of) came, a bottle of
the
2001 de Montille "Les Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er appeared.
A pungent slightly cheesy nose, with flowers and lemon peel . Rich and
structured on palate, apple and lemon meringue. Very good. A-/B+

Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
paid separately for the Niellon). Jacques did a great job organizing
(no surprise),. and it was one of the better combinations of meal and
wine I've had in a long time.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

[DaleW]

On Jun 16, 10:25*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@********> wrote:
> So last night eight good geeks (ok, six good geeks, a couple of great
> spouses) gathered at Crabtrees Kittle House for dinner and a little
> tour around Burgundy. After a thunderstormy day, it was a beautiful
> evening, and Betsy and I were lucky enough to be on side with gorgeous
> outside view. It was really a convivial group, and everyone brought
> some nice wines. We did the tasting menu, and a fine night ensued.
>
> 1998 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er
> Fresh, young, giving. Very light, yet with depth and concentration on
> finish. I really enjoyed this. A-/B+
>
> 2000 Domaine Leflaive "Les Pucelles" Puligny-Montrachet *1er
> Pear and citrus fruit, just a bit of hazelnut/fish oil Coche-style
> exoticism, good length, young. B+
>
> (somewhere in here there was a delicious opener of crudo/sashimi, tuna
> and an excellent white fish that I thought was hamachi but thought
> after tasting maybe fluke, with a lime/cilantro sauce)
>
> 1995 Drouhin "Les Folatieres" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
> My white. Bigger, rich, mature but not oxidized. Gio said it seemed
> Batardish. Very nice wine, though I preferred the Chablis by a hair. B
> +/A-
>
> 1991 Neillon "Les Vergers" Chassagne-Montrachet 1er
> Kittle House has the best list north of city, and Dave spotted some
> bargains compared to market, and we discussed whether to get this or a
> Ramonet. I voted for this due to sentimental reasons (plus it was
> great in 2000). Age is really showing on nose, oxidative/sherryish
> notes, but it's considerably fresher on palate - definitely some
> oxidative flavors of caramel and nuts, but also some chalky minerals,
> flowers. I liked more 9 years ago, but this is classy if fading (I
> think I may have liked more than table). B
>
> A pretty good lineup of whites, and then we started with reds. About
> then a diver scallop accented with curry on a bed of peas with mint
> arrived, sounds weird, tasted delicious.
>
> 1996 Comte de Vogue Chambolle Musigny 1er
> Young vines Musigny of course. Good acids, some tannins, perfumed.
> Nice, but I thought just a touch clunky compared to its flightmate. B
>
> 1996 Rousseau "Les Cazetiers" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er.
> Black cherries, earth, and a little grilled meat. Nice balance of
> fruit, tannins, and acids. Tiny hint of brett, but well within my
> tolerance level. *Drinking well but with a future. I think I might
> have been in minority in *preferring to the Vogue. B+/A-
>
> Next course was duck breast roasted with thyme, with little porcinis,
> zucchini, and turnip.
>
> 1999 Mommesin Clos de Tart
> Damn! Corked all to hell
>
> 1996 Rene Engel Clos de Vougeot
> Big, ripe black cherry fruit framed by somewhat zippy acids, very nice
> though I think time would do this good. B+
>
> At some point a lamb chop accompanied by roast lamb neck and some
> fennel arrived.
>
> 1998 Thierry Violot-Guillemard "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Totally new producer to me, but I was quite impressed. Combined that
> Pommard meaty masculinity with some real elegance. *Some lead pencil/
> graphite and minerals. Lovely midweight which went well with the food.
> A-/B+
>
> 1980 Henri Boillot "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Pretty sure my last bottle of this, but other than one grabbed by TCA
> has been a consistent strong performer. Smoke, crushed cherries,
> lighter older Burg with fresh acids keeping it lively. Again, elegant
> (who'd have thought of both Pommards as oozing elegance?). As always,
> I find this stunning on nose, good on palate. A-
>
> This was supposed to be the end, but as the cheese (Epoisses, Pleasant
> Ridge, plus a Portugese cheese I missed name of) came, a bottle of
> the
> 2001 de Montille "Les Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er appeared.
> A pungent slightly cheesy nose, with flowers and lemon peel . Rich and
> structured on palate, apple and lemon meringue. Very good. A-/B+
>
> Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
> to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
> paid separately for the Niellon). Jacques did a great job organizing
> (no surprise),. and it was one of the better combinations of meal and
> wine I've had in a long time.
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

I should proof before posting, Niellon of course

[Bi!!]

On Jun 16, 10:25�am, DaleW <Dwmi...@********> wrote:
> So last night eight good geeks (ok, six good geeks, a couple of great
> spouses) gathered at Crabtrees Kittle House for dinner and a little
> tour around Burgundy. After a thunderstormy day, it was a beautiful
> evening, and Betsy and I were lucky enough to be on side with gorgeous
> outside view. It was really a convivial group, and everyone brought
> some nice wines. We did the tasting menu, and a fine night ensued.
>
> 1998 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er
> Fresh, young, giving. Very light, yet with depth and concentration on
> finish. I really enjoyed this. A-/B+
>
> 2000 Domaine Leflaive "Les Pucelles" Puligny-Montrachet �1er
> Pear and citrus fruit, just a bit of hazelnut/fish oil Coche-style
> exoticism, good length, young. B+
>
> (somewhere in here there was a delicious opener of crudo/sashimi, tuna
> and an excellent white fish that I thought was hamachi but thought
> after tasting maybe fluke, with a lime/cilantro sauce)
>
> 1995 Drouhin "Les Folatieres" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
> My white. Bigger, rich, mature but not oxidized. Gio said it seemed
> Batardish. Very nice wine, though I preferred the Chablis by a hair. B
> +/A-
>
> 1991 Neillon "Les Vergers" Chassagne-Montrachet 1er
> Kittle House has the best list north of city, and Dave spotted some
> bargains compared to market, and we discussed whether to get this or a
> Ramonet. I voted for this due to sentimental reasons (plus it was
> great in 2000). Age is really showing on nose, oxidative/sherryish
> notes, but it's considerably fresher on palate - definitely some
> oxidative flavors of caramel and nuts, but also some chalky minerals,
> flowers. I liked more 9 years ago, but this is classy if fading (I
> think I may have liked more than table). B
>
> A pretty good lineup of whites, and then we started with reds. About
> then a diver scallop accented with curry on a bed of peas with mint
> arrived, sounds weird, tasted delicious.
>
> 1996 Comte de Vogue Chambolle Musigny 1er
> Young vines Musigny of course. Good acids, some tannins, perfumed.
> Nice, but I thought just a touch clunky compared to its flightmate. B
>
> 1996 Rousseau "Les Cazetiers" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er.
> Black cherries, earth, and a little grilled meat. Nice balance of
> fruit, tannins, and acids. Tiny hint of brett, but well within my
> tolerance level. �Drinking well but with a future. I think I might
> have been in minority in �preferring to the Vogue. B+/A-
>
> Next course was duck breast roasted with thyme, with little porcinis,
> zucchini, and turnip.
>
> 1999 Mommesin Clos de Tart
> Damn! Corked all to hell
>
> 1996 Rene Engel Clos de Vougeot
> Big, ripe black cherry fruit framed by somewhat zippy acids, very nice
> though I think time would do this good. B+
>
> At some point a lamb chop accompanied by roast lamb neck and some
> fennel arrived.
>
> 1998 Thierry Violot-Guillemard "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Totally new producer to me, but I was quite impressed. Combined that
> Pommard meaty masculinity with some real elegance. �Some lead pencil/
> graphite and minerals. Lovely midweight which went well with the food.
> A-/B+
>
> 1980 Henri Boillot "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Pretty sure my last bottle of this, but other than one grabbed by TCA
> has been a consistent strong performer. Smoke, crushed cherries,
> lighter older Burg with fresh acids keeping it lively. Again, elegant
> (who'd have thought of both Pommards as oozing elegance?). As always,
> I find this stunning on nose, good on palate. A-
>
> This was supposed to be the end, but as the cheese (Epoisses, Pleasant
> Ridge, plus a Portugese cheese I missed name of) came, a bottle of
> the
> 2001 de Montille "Les Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er appeared.
> A pungent slightly cheesy nose, with flowers and lemon peel . Rich and
> structured on palate, apple and lemon meringue. Very good. A-/B+
>
> Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
> to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
> paid separately for the Niellon). Jacques did a great job organizing
> (no surprise),. and it was one of the better combinations of meal and
> wine I've had in a long time.
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.�

Too bad about the Clos de Tart. I just posted notes on the 1999 and
it would have been a nice comparison. Great line-up of
wines....envious of the line up of whites

[DaleW]

On Jun 16, 11:35*am, "Bi!" <rvwr...@********> wrote:
>
> Too bad about the Clos de Tart. *I just posted notes on the 1999 and
> it would have been a nice comparison. *Great line-up of
> wines....envious of the line up of whites

Yes, I was really looking forward to the CdT, I remembered you had
just posted notes on '99/'00. Gio was crushed his bottle was corked.
But as I told him "hey, you didn't make the wine OR the cork!"

[DaleW]

On Jun 16, 10:25*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@********> wrote:
> So last night eight good geeks (ok, six good geeks, a couple of great
> spouses) gathered at Crabtrees Kittle House for dinner and a little
> tour around Burgundy. After a thunderstormy day, it was a beautiful
> evening, and Betsy and I were lucky enough to be on side with gorgeous
> outside view. It was really a convivial group, and everyone brought
> some nice wines. We did the tasting menu, and a fine night ensued.
>
> 1998 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er
> Fresh, young, giving. Very light, yet with depth and concentration on
> finish. I really enjoyed this. A-/B+
>
> 2000 Domaine Leflaive "Les Pucelles" Puligny-Montrachet *1er
> Pear and citrus fruit, just a bit of hazelnut/fish oil Coche-style
> exoticism, good length, young. B+
>
> (somewhere in here there was a delicious opener of crudo/sashimi, tuna
> and an excellent white fish that I thought was hamachi but thought
> after tasting maybe fluke, with a lime/cilantro sauce)
>
> 1995 Drouhin "Les Folatieres" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
> My white. Bigger, rich, mature but not oxidized. Gio said it seemed
> Batardish. Very nice wine, though I preferred the Chablis by a hair. B
> +/A-
>
> 1991 Neillon "Les Vergers" Chassagne-Montrachet 1er
> Kittle House has the best list north of city, and Dave spotted some
> bargains compared to market, and we discussed whether to get this or a
> Ramonet. I voted for this due to sentimental reasons (plus it was
> great in 2000). Age is really showing on nose, oxidative/sherryish
> notes, but it's considerably fresher on palate - definitely some
> oxidative flavors of caramel and nuts, but also some chalky minerals,
> flowers. I liked more 9 years ago, but this is classy if fading (I
> think I may have liked more than table). B
>
> A pretty good lineup of whites, and then we started with reds. About
> then a diver scallop accented with curry on a bed of peas with mint
> arrived, sounds weird, tasted delicious.
>
> 1996 Comte de Vogue Chambolle Musigny 1er
> Young vines Musigny of course. Good acids, some tannins, perfumed.
> Nice, but I thought just a touch clunky compared to its flightmate. B
>
> 1996 Rousseau "Les Cazetiers" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er.
> Black cherries, earth, and a little grilled meat. Nice balance of
> fruit, tannins, and acids. Tiny hint of brett, but well within my
> tolerance level. *Drinking well but with a future. I think I might
> have been in minority in *preferring to the Vogue. B+/A-
>
> Next course was duck breast roasted with thyme, with little porcinis,
> zucchini, and turnip.
>
> 1999 Mommesin Clos de Tart
> Damn! Corked all to hell
>
> 1996 Rene Engel Clos de Vougeot
> Big, ripe black cherry fruit framed by somewhat zippy acids, very nice
> though I think time would do this good. B+
>
> At some point a lamb chop accompanied by roast lamb neck and some
> fennel arrived.
>
> 1998 Thierry Violot-Guillemard "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Totally new producer to me, but I was quite impressed. Combined that
> Pommard meaty masculinity with some real elegance. *Some lead pencil/
> graphite and minerals. Lovely midweight which went well with the food.
> A-/B+
>
> 1980 Henri Boillot "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Pretty sure my last bottle of this, but other than one grabbed by TCA
> has been a consistent strong performer. Smoke, crushed cherries,
> lighter older Burg with fresh acids keeping it lively. Again, elegant
> (who'd have thought of both Pommards as oozing elegance?). As always,
> I find this stunning on nose, good on palate. A-
>
> This was supposed to be the end, but as the cheese (Epoisses, Pleasant
> Ridge, plus a Portugese cheese I missed name of) came, a bottle of
> the
> 2001 de Montille "Les Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er appeared.
> A pungent slightly cheesy nose, with flowers and lemon peel . Rich and
> structured on palate, apple and lemon meringue. Very good. A-/B+
>
> Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
> to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
> paid separately for the Niellon). Jacques did a great job organizing
> (no surprise),. and it was one of the better combinations of meal and
> wine I've had in a long time.
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

Oops, forgot a nice dish of some halibut with little baby artichokes
that didn't interfere with wine

[Lawrence Leichtman]

In article
<d9723b5f-6395-4e65-8f36-626954445d2b@w9g2000pro.************.com>,
DaleW <Dwmidnt@********> wrote:

> So last night eight good geeks (ok, six good geeks, a couple of great
> spouses) gathered at Crabtrees Kittle House for dinner and a little
> tour around Burgundy. After a thunderstormy day, it was a beautiful
> evening, and Betsy and I were lucky enough to be on side with gorgeous
> outside view. It was really a convivial group, and everyone brought
> some nice wines. We did the tasting menu, and a fine night ensued.
>
> 1998 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er
> Fresh, young, giving. Very light, yet with depth and concentration on
> finish. I really enjoyed this. A-/B+
>
> 2000 Domaine Leflaive "Les Pucelles" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
> Pear and citrus fruit, just a bit of hazelnut/fish oil Coche-style
> exoticism, good length, young. B+
>
> (somewhere in here there was a delicious opener of crudo/sashimi, tuna
> and an excellent white fish that I thought was hamachi but thought
> after tasting maybe fluke, with a lime/cilantro sauce)
>
> 1995 Drouhin "Les Folatieres" Puligny-Montrachet 1er
> My white. Bigger, rich, mature but not oxidized. Gio said it seemed
> Batardish. Very nice wine, though I preferred the Chablis by a hair. B
> +/A-
>
> 1991 Neillon "Les Vergers" Chassagne-Montrachet 1er
> Kittle House has the best list north of city, and Dave spotted some
> bargains compared to market, and we discussed whether to get this or a
> Ramonet. I voted for this due to sentimental reasons (plus it was
> great in 2000). Age is really showing on nose, oxidative/sherryish
> notes, but it's considerably fresher on palate - definitely some
> oxidative flavors of caramel and nuts, but also some chalky minerals,
> flowers. I liked more 9 years ago, but this is classy if fading (I
> think I may have liked more than table). B
>
> A pretty good lineup of whites, and then we started with reds. About
> then a diver scallop accented with curry on a bed of peas with mint
> arrived, sounds weird, tasted delicious.
>
> 1996 Comte de Vogue Chambolle Musigny 1er
> Young vines Musigny of course. Good acids, some tannins, perfumed.
> Nice, but I thought just a touch clunky compared to its flightmate. B
>
> 1996 Rousseau "Les Cazetiers" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er.
> Black cherries, earth, and a little grilled meat. Nice balance of
> fruit, tannins, and acids. Tiny hint of brett, but well within my
> tolerance level. Drinking well but with a future. I think I might
> have been in minority in preferring to the Vogue. B+/A-
>
> Next course was duck breast roasted with thyme, with little porcinis,
> zucchini, and turnip.
>
> 1999 Mommesin Clos de Tart
> Damn! Corked all to hell
>
> 1996 Rene Engel Clos de Vougeot
> Big, ripe black cherry fruit framed by somewhat zippy acids, very nice
> though I think time would do this good. B+
>
> At some point a lamb chop accompanied by roast lamb neck and some
> fennel arrived.
>
> 1998 Thierry Violot-Guillemard "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Totally new producer to me, but I was quite impressed. Combined that
> Pommard meaty masculinity with some real elegance. Some lead pencil/
> graphite and minerals. Lovely midweight which went well with the food.
> A-/B+
>
> 1980 Henri Boillot "Rugiens" Pommard 1er
> Pretty sure my last bottle of this, but other than one grabbed by TCA
> has been a consistent strong performer. Smoke, crushed cherries,
> lighter older Burg with fresh acids keeping it lively. Again, elegant
> (who'd have thought of both Pommards as oozing elegance?). As always,
> I find this stunning on nose, good on palate. A-
>
> This was supposed to be the end, but as the cheese (Epoisses, Pleasant
> Ridge, plus a Portugese cheese I missed name of) came, a bottle of
> the
> 2001 de Montille "Les Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er appeared.
> A pungent slightly cheesy nose, with flowers and lemon peel . Rich and
> structured on palate, apple and lemon meringue. Very good. A-/B+
>
> Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
> to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
> paid separately for the Niellon). Jacques did a great job organizing
> (no surprise),. and it was one of the better combinations of meal and
> wine I've had in a long time.
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

Sounds like a great evening and tasting. Didn't Bi mention something
about a corked Mommesin? I have had a few funky bottles of theirs and am
not buying anymore at present.

[Anders Tørneskog]

"DaleW" <Dwmidnt@********> skrev I melding
news:a7f57e3d-c7da-4f34-96f3-2dc0388b036e@w31g2000prd.************.com...
On Jun 16, 10:25 am, DaleW <Dwmi...@********> wrote:
>>
>> Quite a night (and Betsy was driving so I had no constraints). Thanks
>> to everyone for their vinuous generosity (especially Dave who I think
>> paid separately for the Niellon).

>I should proof before posting, Niellon of course

Of course - OK, the first occurence was wrong but then we over here know you
tend to reverse ie things - like in Reisling... and correct automatically
when reading US based postings

:-) Anders