Barbecues at Grand Canyon North Rim!!

"KGB (KGB)" wrote...

> Hi
>
> My wife and I (from the UK) have a cabin booked for a few nights at
> the Grand Canyon North Rim at the end of May. The regulations clearly
> state that cooking is not allowed in the cabin - fair enough.
>
> However, virtually every cabin we have stayed at throughout the US
> Southwest on previous trips have had a barbecue stand outside the
> cabin. Do the cabins at the GC North Rim have barbecue stands?? If
> not, if we took our own small barbecue - would that be permitted
> outside the cabin??
>
> Alternatively, are there picnic areas with barbecues at the North Rim?
> We have actually stayed at the North Rim Campground, but that was 15
> years ago and whilst the pitches had the usual built-in barbecue (I
> assume it hasn't changed), I cannot recollect any picnic areas for
> general use.
>
> Similarly, what is the situation at Zion NP? We have a cabin booked
> there before the Grand Canyon.
>
> Regards - and thanks in advance.

I go to the North Rim about once a year. Although I've not needed a grill
there and therefore may have overlooked them, I don't remember seeing any
grills near the cabins. Even if present, the wildfire fire danger may ban
all outdoor fires, smoking and charcoal grilling within the park
boundaries--and late May is usually a high fire danger time of year. When
fires are permitted, it's possible that they're only allowed inside the
North Rim's paid campground. As someone else has already said, this is a
question best asked of the Grand Canyon staff by phone or email.

In any event, enjoy the North Rim. It's spectacular.

Craig

PS--note that the North Rim has very limited food service: the Lodge (where
reservations are REQUIRED for dinner), the cafeteria with a limited
selection, the bar (very limited selection--mostly snacks), ...or a long
drive to Jacob Lake Lodge (I recommend you stop there on your way in or out
anyway and buy a home-baked cookie or two).

not exactly barbq, not in the sense of hanging out spinning the meet
with a beer and a flipper....

but a george foreman grill, and a plug in power converter for the
car....

good to go.....

<garciyalater@m> wrote in message
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> not exactly barbq, not in the sense of hanging out spinning the meet
> with a beer and a flipper....
>
> but a george foreman grill, and a plug in power converter for the
> car....
>
> good to go.....

While I use my George Foreman grill quite a lot I suspect
that it would flatten my car battery before even warming
the steak through let alone cooking it.

Keith

"Hatunen" <hatunen@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:46:28 -0700, SMS
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>> <garciyalater@m> wrote in message
>>> news:d2e815e1-ad63-4e87-8852-38e18a6bb2d9@l64g2000hse..com...
>>>> not exactly barbq, not in the sense of hanging out spinning the meet
>>>> with a beer and a flipper....
>>>>
>>>> but a george foreman grill, and a plug in power converter for the
>>>> car....
>>>>
>>>> good to go.....
>>>
>>> While I use my George Foreman grill quite a lot I suspect
>>> that it would flatten my car battery before even warming
>>> the steak through let alone cooking it.
>>
>>No it wouldn't because a plug-in power inverter will not power a George
>>Foreman grill. The power converter would simply shut down.
>>
>>Now if you bought a 1000 watt power inverter and attached it directly to
>>your car battery with heavy duty cables, and ran the car engine, you
>>could do it. Without the engine running you could still probably get 20
>>minutes or so of grilling time and still be able to start the car
>>afterward.
>
> Of course, you might not want to risk a dead battery at the North
> Rim...

I am somewhat surprised that no one has suggested the old tried and true -
wrap your steak - together with onions, carrots, mushrooms, etc - in heavy
aluminum foil while still a hundred miles or so from your destination and
place it securely under the hood of your car on top of the engine block.
Placing all the makings in one of those heavy aluminum cake pans before the
wrapping might be a good idea. The fastidious would have previously steam
cleaned the engine. Stop every 15-20 minutes to check doneness of your
meal, turning it over (in that cake pan) as needed. When you meal is cooked
to your satisfaction, place it in a good insulated cooler. Take out at
dinner time and enjoy. No appliance to clean up afterwards, no battery
problems, no power converter requirements, no fuss, no bother.

> wrap your steak ... place it securely under the hood...
> The fastidious would have previously steam cleaned the engine...
> Stop every 15-20 minutes to check doneness...
> No appliance to clean up afterwards
> no fuss, no bother

MIght be fun to try that technique sometime, but it doesn't exactly
sound like "no fuss, no bother". A small electric grill (like those
George Forman grills) can be set up in seconds and cleaning afterwards
takes maybe one minute.

James

"y_p_w" <y_p_w@m> wrote in message
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> -- -- --
>
> I'd love to visit one of these days. I'm kind of a sucker for the
> rustic designs of Gilbert Stanley Underwood. I've been to the
> Ahwahnee at Yosemite, walked through one of the visitor centers he
> designed at Sequoia NP (now the Giant Forest Museum), and dined/stayed
> in his lodge/cabin designs at Bryce Canyon.

I love the North Rim, sitting on the verandah of the North Rim Lodge
watching the sun go down is magical.

Keith