Eastern Usa- Canada

Hi at all!
I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane.
It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could
join in car with other people.


Ny (7 days),
Boston (3)
Montreal (3)
Quebec City (2)
Toronto (3)
Niagara (1)
then flight to Chicago (4)
flight to (Philadelphia 2)
Washington (4)

After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New
Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago.

Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go
directly from Boston?

What do jou thik about?

On Feb 5, 8:19 am, max11 <eagles1...@> wrote:
> Hi at all!
> I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
> 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane.
> It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could
> join in car with other people.
>
> Ny (7 days),
> Boston (3)
> Montreal (3)
> Quebec City (2)
> Toronto (3)
> Niagara (1)
> then flight to Chicago (4)
> flight to (Philadelphia 2)
> Washington (4)
>
> After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New
> Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago.
>
> Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go
> directly from Boston?
>
> What do jou thik about?


I thik about world peace and the key to happiness.

max11 wrote:

> Hi at all!
> I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
> 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane.
> It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could
> join in car with other people.
>
> Ny (7 days),
> Boston (3)
> Montreal (3)
> Quebec City (2)
> Toronto (3)
> Niagara (1)
> then flight to Chicago (4)
> flight to (Philadelphia 2)
> Washington (4)
>
> After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New
> Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago.
>
> Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go
> directly from Boston?
>
> What do jou thik about?

It depends on how you are travelling and the travel connections and costs.
If driving, you may as well From boston it is 310 miles Montreal, and
396 to. Then it is 263 from Quebec to Montreal. That means 573 miles
driving fromBoston to Quebec and then to Montreal, compared to a total of
836 to go Boston to Montreal, on to Quebec and then back to Montreal, not
to mention that it will give you extra time to see Quebec without having
to spend at least three hours driving there. I imagine that bus and train
fare would reflect those extra distances.

Ed Treijs wrote:

> May is a good month to visit northeastern North America, although it is
> possible to get cold weather or snow, especially at the beginning of the
> month. (In Ontario, there was quite a bit of snow on Victoria Day a year or
> two back, and that's around May 24!)

True, it does happen once in a while, like once every 30 years or so. Geneally it
is very pleasant weather in May.


> Does the time include travel? Because it will take most of a day to do some
> of the legs, such as Quebec City to Toronto. I think that you should
> reconsider the number of cities you want to visit, and make sure you have at
> least two non-travel days in each.
>
> Quebec City is a good tourist destination, but I'd suggest that it would make
> more sense to visit Ottawa instead. Ottawa is between Montreal and Toronto,
> so this reduces your travel time and expense (many buses
> Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, and trains too.) Ottawa has a fair amount of
> history, and many national museums as well as the historic Parliament
> buildings.

I would agree that Ottawa may be a better choice than Quebec, considering that the
OP wants to go to Toronto and Niagara. Quebec has an interesting old town, but I
would need to be reminded of anything else there worth seeing. Ottawa has a lot
more to see and to and would cut down on travel time and costs.


> There are many bus tours to Niagara, but I'd suggest you rent a car for a day
> or two while in Toronto. Niagara is the one leg that's a very easy drive.
> It seems that you will be in Toronto/Niagara area around May 20. The Niagara
> area has many blooming fruit trees at this time, and it is worth taking a
> longer driving tour.

Try to figure out when Blossom Week is supposed to be and come a week or so before
that. It is pretty nice when all the blossoms are out in the orchards. However,
there are nowhere near as many orchards as there used to be. A lot of the orchards
along the QEW have turned into subdivisions and industrial parks and in the NotL
area many of them have been cut town and replaced with vineyards, whose blossoms
are quite subtle.

You can probably find out about the Chinese bus lines (I know they're NY
to Boston and NY to Philadelphia and Washington D.C.) by googling New
York Chinese Bus

On 9 Feb, 02:38, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":
>
> > I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
> > 13th).
>
> I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> (Memorial Day). So the kind of roads and hotels that people use for
> weekend trips will be particularly busy (not only on the holidays but
> also the whole weekend), and things like banks and post offices and
> some stores will be closed. On the other hand, places that business
> travelers go will be less busy.
>
> Victoria Day is a traditional fireworks day in some provinces, including
> Ontario, and you may be able to find a public fireworks show if you'd
> like to watch one.

Thank you I didn't know!

"max11" <eagles1929@> wrote in message
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>

> I like to travel by night so I can save a day, and I think buses/train
> are the best option for this. They are also good because they are more
> flexible in date than flight (and I could decide to stay one day more
> in such city)
>

Not in the USA alas. There is only one train a day from NYC
to Montreal, its a daytime train and its SLOW taking 10 hours
if its on time , and it rarely is. Thats an average speed of less than
60 km /hour !

Keith

On 9 Feb, 02:38, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":
>
> > I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
> > 13th).
>
> I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> (Memorial Day). So the kind of roads and hotels that people use for
> weekend trips will be particularly busy (not only on the holidays but
> also the whole weekend), and things like banks and post offices and
> some stores will be closed. On the other hand, places that business
> travelers go will be less busy.
>
> Victoria Day is a traditional fireworks day in some provinces, including
> Ontario, and you may be able to find a public fireworks show if you'd
> like to watch one.


What kind of holiday are these? Besides the fireworks, is there
anything of interesting?

Mark Brader wrote:

> Mark Brader:
> > > I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> > > (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> > > (Memorial Day). ...
>
> "Max":
> > What kind of holiday are these?
>
> Mostly, a day off work in the spring. Memorial Day is also a day for
> remembrance of military people killed in action.

When I was a kid it was Victoria Day or, more commonly, Firecracker Day. These
days it is more commonly referred to as the May 2-4 weekend, the weekend that
people go away camping or to the cottage, or stay home and drink cases of beer.

Mark Brader wrote:
> J. Clarke:
>> Now, turns out that (at least according to National) there's a
>> gotcha. Apparently for some reason known only to the Canadian
>> legislature, a Canadian citizen can't drive across the US-Canada
>> border in a US-registered rental car ...
>
> That's wrong -- as correctly stated elsewhere in the thread, the
> rule
> applies to Canadian residents, not citizens. It's a customs issue.

It's only "wrong" if it doesn't apply to citizens.

> Some years ago I was told by a rental company that it actually did
> not
> apply if the car was taken into Canada and dropped off at the first
> convenient point, or something like that. In particular, that it
> was
> permissible enter via I-5, drive as far as Vancouver, and return the
> car promptly there. I make no assertion that this is generally
> true,
> or even that it was really legal then.

According to both National and Alamo the car gets siezed at the
border.

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