Navajo Indian reservation and AWD drive car

Greetings! Many thanks to all of you who replied. I have a new 2007
Ford five hundred AWD. I also have a Germin GPS. I am going to take a
cooler for drinks. Please suggest if you think I need anything else.
With thanks.

On Jun 28, 1:25 pm, asdf3b <aro...@radiology.umsmed.edu> wrote:
> Greetings! I would like to visit Navajo Indian reservations in
> Arizona. I have an All wheel Drive car. Will AWD will be sufficient or
> I need 4x4 SUV? I live in USA. With thanks.

"RJ" wrote...

> george wrote:
>
>> The statement
>> about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along the
>> rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
>
> I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
> parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
> experiences about how risky this is.

Sadly, the warnings are posted at each overlook as well as being mentioned
in the guidebooks. Having said that, I camped in the park's campground
several years ago with no problem and have stopped at each overlook and left
my car for the time it took to hike to the viewpoints or down and back to
the one spot (White House Ruins?) where visitors can go without guides and
had no problems. I did take care to not have anything of value showing on a
car seat, etc. At one of the overlooks on the north side of the canyon, I
did meet some folks with tables set up and items for sale. They were a bit
pushy/hi-pressure or whatever you want to call folks that really want you to
buy something. I do read the NPS Morning Report most days and haven't seen
anything recent regarding car clouts at Canyon de Chelly--unless maybe
reports don't appear if investigated by the Navajo Nation police force or
local Chinle police rather than Park Rangers.

Having read the original poster's recent added info, I'd say it's best to
stick to the paved Rez roads in that vehicle. The very short dirt road to
the Coal Mine Canyon overlook is OK as is the short loop at Monument
Valley--and if you travel very slowly and carefully on a day when it hasn't
rained in the past week, a trip out to the Grand Falls of the Little
Colorado would work, but I'd avoid any major distance on an unpaved road
with a Ford 500.

Craig

PS--If traveling past the Hopi Mesas, I'd suggest a stop and tour of First
Mesa and lunch and visit to the museum at Second Mesa. Also, keep in mind
that the Navajo Nation observes Daylight Saving in summer as does all of New
Mexico and other non-AZ parts of the Rez while the Hopi and the rest of the
state of AZ do not observe Daylight Saving.

On Jun 29, 6:38 pm, rj_nos...@m (RJ) wrote:
> george <gpolkow...m> wrote:
> > The statement
> > about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along the
> > rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
>
> I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
> parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
> experiences about how risky this is.



I have been to a number of places all over the world this past 5 years
with the same warning.

"PeterL" <po.ning@> wrote in message
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> On Jun 29, 6:38 pm, rj_nos...@m (RJ) wrote:
>> george <gpolkow...m> wrote:
>> > The statement
>> > about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along the
>> > rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
>>
>> I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
>> parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
>> experiences about how risky this is.
>
>
>
> I have been to a number of places all over the world this past 5 years
> with the same warning.
>

Anyone with ANY brains doesn't leave ANYTHING visible on the seats of the
car when not present in the vehicle. We keep that stuff in the TRUNK, Locked
trunk. Never had any problems that way. To leave ANYTHING in view is asking
for a break in.

PeterL <po.ning@> wrote:

> On Jun 29, 6:38 pm, rj_nos...@m (RJ) wrote:
> > george <gpolkow...m> wrote:
> > > The statement
> > > about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along the
> > > rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
> >
> > I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
> > parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
> > experiences about how risky this is.
>
>
>
> I have been to a number of places all over the world this past 5 years
> with the same warning.

So have I.

But I have several guidebooks to the southwest and Navajo country that
cover theft and proper protection of your valuables generally in the
introduction. It is never mentioned again in the books EXCEPT for this
location. This suggests that there are reasons to be extra careful at
Chelly.

On Jun 30, 3:47 pm, "sharx35" <shar...@m> wrote:
> "PeterL" <po.n...@> wrote in message
>
> news:1183242159.356749.188650@o11g2000prd. o...
>
> > On Jun 29, 6:38 pm, rj_nos...@m (RJ) wrote:
> >> george <gpolkow...m> wrote:
> >> > The statement
> >> > about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along the
> >> > rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
>
> >> I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
> >> parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
> >> experiences about how risky this is.
>
> > I have been to a number of places all over the world this past 5 years
> > with the same warning.
>
> Anyone with ANY brains doesn't leave ANYTHING visible on the seats of the
> car when not present in the vehicle. We keep that stuff in the TRUNK, Locked
> trunk. Never had any problems that way. To leave ANYTHING in view is asking
> for a break in.


A friend of mine had his car broken into. There was nothing in the
seats. The thieves broke the window, opened the door, plied open the
back seat and got into the trunk. You don't have to leave anything in
view. Just the fact that you are driving an out of state car or a
rental car is enough to attract thieves.

"PeterL" <po.ning@> wrote in message
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> On Jun 30, 3:47 pm, "sharx35" <shar...@m> wrote:
>> "PeterL" <po.n...@> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1183242159.356749.188650@o11g2000prd. o...
>>
>> > On Jun 29, 6:38 pm, rj_nos...@m (RJ) wrote:
>> >> george <gpolkow...m> wrote:
>> >> > The statement
>> >> > about tours isn't exactly correct. Basically, you can drive along
>> >> > the
>> >> > rim of both canyons on the highway and stop at a few vista points.
>>
>> >> I have seen a number of guidebooks that warn of theft from vehicles
>> >> parked at these vista points. I'd be interested in any personal
>> >> experiences about how risky this is.
>>
>> > I have been to a number of places all over the world this past 5 years
>> > with the same warning.
>>
>> Anyone with ANY brains doesn't leave ANYTHING visible on the seats of the
>> car when not present in the vehicle. We keep that stuff in the TRUNK,
>> Locked
>> trunk. Never had any problems that way. To leave ANYTHING in view is
>> asking
>> for a break in.
>
>
> A friend of mine had his car broken into. There was nothing in the
> seats. The thieves broke the window, opened the door, plied open the
> back seat and got into the trunk. You don't have to leave anything in
> view. Just the fact that you are driving an out of state car or a
> rental car is enough to attract thieves.

Agreed. Also, even in the absence of visible objects, they might want
certain parts or the stereo.


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