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Old 10th August 2006, 03:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rotax 582 cold seizure

maybe someone can help me out with this one a friend of mine was going
to a farm strip early ish one morning tempreture was cool about 8 deg c
he did a good warm up taxied out ,took of and promptly seized at the
top of the climb out no big problem at a 1000 ft above the airfield
,anyway I stripped the top end of the motor and sure enough one piston
had seized giving the classic four corner marks of a cold seizure and
we put it down to not warming up enough, the engine had done just over
200 hrs and was well maintained and the other piston was not marked at
all
So the motor was rebuilt with new parts I ground run it for approx 20
mins at vairying loads but not full power and handed it over to my
friend who started the rotax run in procedure with the trike tied to
the hanger at 59 mins at the full power run it seized again, on
stripping it was exactly the same as before with the four corner marks
of a cold seizure ,he assures me he had the right fuel mix 50 to one
the jetting is correct piston bore clearances are correct and again the
other piston looks perfect
the engine is in an Airborne outback trike it is a blue head motor and
it has a new thermostat
he tells me all temps were correct
I know the rotax run in may be a bit aggressive maybe he should have
gone a little easyer
any help would be most appriciated
thanks
Ray

 
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Old 10th August 2006, 06:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Rotax 582 cold seizure

Ray, I don't have an answer for you but I am most interested. My 582 s a
grey head and a liitle more prone to this type of failure. I'm going to copy
your question to the Yahoo rotax group and see if it gets any good answers
there.


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> maybe someone can help me out with this one a friend of mine was going
> to a farm strip early ish one morning tempreture was cool about 8 deg c
> he did a good warm up taxied out ,took of and promptly seized at the
> top of the climb out no big problem at a 1000 ft above the airfield
> ,anyway I stripped the top end of the motor and sure enough one piston
> had seized giving the classic four corner marks of a cold seizure and
> we put it down to not warming up enough, the engine had done just over
> 200 hrs and was well maintained and the other piston was not marked at
> all
> So the motor was rebuilt with new parts I ground run it for approx 20
> mins at vairying loads but not full power and handed it over to my
> friend who started the rotax run in procedure with the trike tied to
> the hanger at 59 mins at the full power run it seized again, on
> stripping it was exactly the same as before with the four corner marks
> of a cold seizure ,he assures me he had the right fuel mix 50 to one
> the jetting is correct piston bore clearances are correct and again the
> other piston looks perfect
> the engine is in an Airborne outback trike it is a blue head motor and
> it has a new thermostat
> he tells me all temps were correct
> I know the rotax run in may be a bit aggressive maybe he should have
> gone a little easyer
> any help would be most appriciated
> thanks
> Ray
>



 
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Old 10th August 2006, 06:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Rotax 582 cold seizure

Thats actually a matronics list, not yahoo.


 
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Default Rotax 582 cold seizure

Thanks Dave
Regards
Ray
Dave wrote:
> Ray, I don't have an answer for you but I am most interested. My 582 s a
> grey head and a liitle more prone to this type of failure. I'm going to copy
> your question to the Yahoo rotax group and see if it gets any good answers
> there.
>
>
> "Ray" <raybcorbett.nz> wrote in message
> news:1155194335.350698.162830@h48g2000cwc. o...
> > maybe someone can help me out with this one a friend of mine was going
> > to a farm strip early ish one morning tempreture was cool about 8 deg c
> > he did a good warm up taxied out ,took of and promptly seized at the
> > top of the climb out no big problem at a 1000 ft above the airfield
> > ,anyway I stripped the top end of the motor and sure enough one piston
> > had seized giving the classic four corner marks of a cold seizure and
> > we put it down to not warming up enough, the engine had done just over
> > 200 hrs and was well maintained and the other piston was not marked at
> > all
> > So the motor was rebuilt with new parts I ground run it for approx 20
> > mins at vairying loads but not full power and handed it over to my
> > friend who started the rotax run in procedure with the trike tied to
> > the hanger at 59 mins at the full power run it seized again, on
> > stripping it was exactly the same as before with the four corner marks
> > of a cold seizure ,he assures me he had the right fuel mix 50 to one
> > the jetting is correct piston bore clearances are correct and again the
> > other piston looks perfect
> > the engine is in an Airborne outback trike it is a blue head motor and
> > it has a new thermostat
> > he tells me all temps were correct
> > I know the rotax run in may be a bit aggressive maybe he should have
> > gone a little easyer
> > any help would be most appriciated
> > thanks
> > Ray
> >


 
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