Plane crash at Biggin Hill.

"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1ienb2p.ugqpsj12ddu3aN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk.. .
> Depresion <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > In tragic news today a small private jet suffering technical
difficulties hit
> > a Kent house attempting to make an emergency landing,
>
> Dung will be along early in the morning to crow about it. Especially
> when he finds out that the people using the aeroplane were all involved
> in motorsport.

That Steve is a "cheap shot"; fancy you using this accident as a chance to
have a dig at Doug, I thought you were above that sort of thing.

Paul

In article <tP-dnYXmrrvloW3anZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, says...

> > You must be mistaken - I've been told planes can't just drop out of the
> > sky from engine(s) failure.
> bf
> Not by itself, but most aviation accidents are a result of a chain of things
> going wrong. In this case, it is reported that the pilot was attempting a
> turn-back to land - landing in the opposite direction to take-off - which is
> one of the most common causes of twins spinning in after an engine failure.
> The recommended emergency procedure in most twins following the loss of one
> engine on take off is to continue to climb to a safe height - Cessna suggest
> 400 feet for the Citation - complete a low-level circuit and land normally.
> However, that assumes that you have correctly identified which engine is
> losing thrust - not all failures are complete or immediate - and, if
> necessary, shut it down.
>
But I was told that this couldn't happen by numerous people and that if
there was a loss of power, a plane would just glide to the ground - not
nosedive into a house like this one did.

Quite apt timing really.

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In article <13v07doko4pvta9@corp..com>, says...

> > You must be mistaken - I've been told planes can't just drop out of the
> > sky from engine(s) failure.
>
> Where have I said they can? What you have there is a direct quote from a
> pilot eye whiteness.
>
I was told in uk.r.d by countless people that a plane cannot just drop
straight out of the sky if there was a power failure and that it would
merely glide to the ground despite everything I've learned in
Principles of Flight saying different.

And now there's an example of what I was on about but I guess because
it's me, nobody will admit I was right will they?

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In article <BD3Ij.6084$h65.699@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, Dogpoop says...
> Conor typed:
>
> > And now there's an example of what I was on about but I guess because
> > it's me, nobody will admit I was right will they?
>
> Heh, paranoia.
>
>
I challenge you to provide an example of a thread where it's happened.

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Paul Stevenson wrote:
> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1ienb2p.ugqpsj12ddu3aN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk.. .
>> Depresion <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> In tragic news today a small private jet suffering technical
>>> difficulties hit a Kent house attempting to make an emergency
>>> landing,
>>
>> Dung will be along early in the morning to crow about it. Especially
>> when he finds out that the people using the aeroplane were all
>> involved in motorsport.
>
> That Steve is a "cheap shot"; fancy you using this accident as a
> chance to have a dig at Doug, I thought you were above that sort of
> thing.
>
But is it true or otherwise? We'll just have to wait.

> "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoniker@.uk> wrote in message
>
> When I used to cross the Channel in a TB9, I would aim to fly at 6500
> feet on the Lydd - Cap Gris Nes crossing, as that would give me
> enough plummeting time to reach one coast or the other for almost all
> of the trip.
> Colin Bignell

Are you Biggles?

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:47:09 +0100, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname
here>.me.uk> wrote:


>A TB-9 starting at 6500 feet and descending at its best glide angle in still
>air will reach the ground just short of 12 miles away.

.....so you get to choose to die on British or French soil rather than
in a vast expanse of water

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In article <0O2dnTVDTOULK2XanZ2dnUVZ8vWdnZ2d@pipex.net>, John Wright
says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <13v07doko4pvta9@corp..com>, says...
> >
> >>> You must be mistaken - I've been told planes can't just drop out of the
> >>> sky from engine(s) failure.
> >> Where have I said they can? What you have there is a direct quote from a
> >> pilot eye whiteness.
> >>
> > I was told in uk.r.d by countless people that a plane cannot just drop
> > straight out of the sky if there was a power failure and that it would
> > merely glide to the ground despite everything I've learned in
> > Principles of Flight saying different.
>
> I don't know where you got that from but it sounds dodgy.

RAF Principles of Flight course.

> All aircraft
> are subject to four forces - lift, weight, drag and thrust. The thrust
> (whether from an IC engine or a turbine) opposes the drag and provides
> speed which helps the wing produce lift to carry the weight. In normal
> operation all these forces are in balance.
>
Now what happens when the airflow under the wings isn't of sufficient
speed to maintain lift...you know, the stall speed?

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