Commuters face 10 per cent rise in fares - Evening Standard

In message <06466af14f.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co.uk >, at
22:28:21 on Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk>
remarked:
>And I notice the assumption that ALL the famous 1300 coaches will be
>in London. Maybe most, but surely not all?

And all delivered in 2014, I think we were hoping for some before that.
--
Roland Perry

"Tim Woodall" <devnull@woodall.me.uk> wrote
> >
> I can't say now but in the period around 95-98 I was keeping detailed
> records for tax purposes. I cannot remember all the numbers now but.
>
> Approx 30000 miles per year.
> That works out at just over 23p/mile.
> Of course, I was doing a high mileage. At 10000 miles I'd save 2k on the
> fuel and maybe 300 on the tyres. That's more like 45p/mile.
>
The HMRC figure of 40p/mile applies where an employer reimburses an employee
for use of the employee's own car for business mileage. But it only applies
up to 10,000 miles/year. Above that the figure is 25p/mile.

Your calculations suggest that the HMRC figure is not far from correct -
probably rather stingy in view of recent increases in costs - but as the
HMRC rates do not depend on the age or purchase price of the car it's a
rough-and-ready approximation. Someone who uses an economical second-hand
car probably gets an element of untaxed benefit-in-kind from these rates,
while the owner of a new luxury car will be subsidising his employer.

Peter

"Michael Bell" <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eadcb4f14f.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co. uk...

>
>> I reckon an average of about 400 trips per year on a yearly season
>> ticket, which means last year I paid about 15p/mile.
>
> How on earth do you manage 400 full-length trips a year? What is your
> actual mileage and how much do you pay for it?

It's hardly difficult. I must do at least 230 Brighton -> London -> Brighton
trips per year.

That's 460*50 = 23,000 miles on a season ticket that costs £3,280 = 14.3
pence/mile.

D A Stocks

In message <gdklia$k3g$1@news.albasani.net>, at 14:30:41 on Tue, 21 Oct
2008, David A Stocks <dastocks@channel4.com> remarked:
>>> I reckon an average of about 400 trips per year on a yearly season
>>> ticket, which means last year I paid about 15p/mile.
>>
>> How on earth do you manage 400 full-length trips a year? What is your
>> actual mileage and how much do you pay for it?
>
>It's hardly difficult. I must do at least 230 Brighton -> London ->
>Brighton trips per year.

There's a subtle x2 multiplier adrift here. I'd count a "trip" as being
'there and back'.
--
Roland Perry

On 21 Oct, 10:47, John B <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 8:56 am, Paul Weaver <use...@isorox.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > 25p/mile! I should hope so, that's more than the price of a car trip
> > for a single person.
>
> No it isn't. Ever. If you think it is, you are wrong.
>

Based on total miles I drive last year, vs total money I spent on the
car last year (excluding petrol), add the total cost of the car, add
the cost of petrol per mile for my last trip.

But I'm sure you know my bank statement more than myself.

On 21 Oct, 14:45, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <gdklia$k3...@news.albasani.net>, at 14:30:41 on Tue, 21 Oct
> 2008, David A Stocks <dasto...@channel4.com> remarked:
>
> >>> I reckon an average of about 400 trips per year on a yearly season
> >>> ticket, which means last year I paid about 15p/mile.
>
> >> How on earth do you manage 400 full-length trips a year? What is your
> >> actual mileage and how much do you pay for it?
>
> >It's hardly difficult. I must do at least 230 Brighton -> London ->
> >Brighton trips per year.
>
> There's a subtle x2 multiplier adrift here. I'd count a "trip" as being
> 'there and back'.

I wouldn't, as it's not a trip. I often do train one way, and taxi the
other.

In message
<40486a40-1e75-4d14-9861-515f7956c62b@34g2000hsh..com>, at
00:54:53 on Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Paul Weaver <usenet@isorox.co.uk>
remarked:
>> >>> I reckon an average of about 400 trips per year on a yearly season
>> >>> ticket, which means last year I paid about 15p/mile.
>>
>> >> How on earth do you manage 400 full-length trips a year? What is your
>> >> actual mileage and how much do you pay for it?
>>
>> >It's hardly difficult. I must do at least 230 Brighton -> London ->
>> >Brighton trips per year.
>>
>> There's a subtle x2 multiplier adrift here. I'd count a "trip" as being
>> 'there and back'.
>
>I wouldn't, as it's not a trip. I often do train one way, and taxi the
>other.

A taxi from London to Birmingham's a bit expense, but would complete a
trip. Season tickets are generally used by people who travel "there and
back" in a day. One return trip.
--
Roland Perry