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Old 6th September 2008, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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On Sep 6, 10:29 pm, Pyromancer <pyroman...@beeching.stormshadow.com>
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> IIRC part of the idea was to provide a Wick - Thurso local service.
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The OP was wondering why trains from the south go first to Thurso then
to Wick and not the other way round. Either way, you still get the
added benefit of the local Wick-Thurso service.
 
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Old 7th September 2008, 07:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Pyromancer" <pyromancer@beeching.stormshadow.com> wrote >
> Back
> in the days of locomotive haulage, the trains divided at Georgemas, the
> front portion going forward to Wick, while another loco coupled on to
> the other end of the rear portion and took it to Thurso.


When I travelled on the early morning train from Inverness, the formation
was:
Loco
Wick vans
Thurso vans
Thurso passenger coaches
Wick passenger coaches.
The train stopped with the Wick passenger coaches short of the Thurso
points, and these coaches were uncoupled. The rest of the train then moved
forward until the Thurso passenger coaches were in the platform. The Wick
passengers at this point were looking out of the windows, and looked as
though they thought they were being abandoned. The Thurso loco was in the
branch part of the platform, and came out and coupled on to the rear of the
Thurso coaches. It then took the Thurso portionn away. The Wick vans were
then backed on to the Wick passenger coaches, coupled up, and proceeded in
an orderly fashion to Wick.

On one occasion, on arrival at Thurso, and after passengers had alighted,
the train was backed out of the station, one van detached, and the rest of
teh train returned to the platform. That van was then allowed to run by
gravity into the bay platform.

At Thurso the loco ran forward into the headshunt, and picked up a van that
was stabled there. The loco and this van then ran round, and backed the
train up to the buffers. One van was then left in the headshunt for
attachment to a later train.

After Sprinterisation there was one timetable after the Ness bridge collapse
when one train ran Dingwall - Thurso - Wick - Dingwall, though the timetable
suggested that passengers to Wick or from Thurso should alight at Georgemas
and wait there while the train went to and from the other terminus.

Peter


 
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Old 7th September 2008, 07:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Sep 6, 11:29 pm, Pyromancer <pyroman...@beeching.stormshadow.com>
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> Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Peter
> <REPLACEWITHMYFOREN...@allblue.f9.co.uk> gently breathed:
>


>
> IIRC part of the idea was to provide a Wick - Thurso local service.

............

This had crossed my mind as one advantage of the current arrangment,
but does anyone actually use it as such do you (or anyone) know?

Kester
 
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Old 7th September 2008, 01:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 04:34:26 -0700 (PDT), Kesterj
<Kesterj@mail.interware.hu> wrote:

>On Sep 6, 11:29 pm, Pyromancer <pyroman...@beeching.stormshadow.com>
>wrote:
>> Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Peter
>> <REPLACEWITHMYFOREN...@allblue.f9.co.uk> gently breathed:
>>

>
>>
>> IIRC part of the idea was to provide a Wick - Thurso local service.

>...........
>
>This had crossed my mind as one advantage of the current arrangment,
>but does anyone actually use it as such do you (or anyone) know?


Not sure. I did the trip a couple of weeks ago, and wasn't really
paying attention. There is a bus service between Wick and Thurso
though, more frequent than the train service, and no doubt cheaper,
too.


 
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Old 7th September 2008, 03:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Sep 7, 7:59 pm, D7666 <d7...@m> wrote:

> True ... but if I was bothered I could probably come up with similarly
> more deserving of £4m Scottish locations than Wick / Thurso.
>


So could I, but it's unlikely that Highland Council would promote or
want to fund any outside its own area.
 
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On 8 Sep, 00:04, Tony Polson <docnews2...@> wrote:

> For a mere £800 million per annum of English taxpayers' money, you
> could replace Council Tax across Scotland with a local income tax.


I think you mean "for the same £400m of UK taxpayers' money used to
pay Council Tax benefit in Scotland"

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT), The Real Doctor
<ian.groups@> wrote:

>On 8 Sep, 00:04, Tony Polson <docnews2...@> wrote:
>
>> For a mere £800 million per annum of English taxpayers' money, you
>> could replace Council Tax across Scotland with a local income tax.

>
>I think you mean "for the same £400m of UK taxpayers' money used to
>pay Council Tax benefit in Scotland"
>

The equivalent figure for Greater London being.... ?
 
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