Improved Preston Ormskirk service?

If the plan includes an improved Southport to Preston service
it will need quite a lot of houses knocking down, some bridges
replaced and quite a few motorway to highway links closed.


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"Eddie Bellass" <eddiebellass@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> If the plan includes an improved Southport to Preston service
> it will need quite a lot of houses knocking down, some bridges
> replaced and quite a few motorway to highway links closed.
>
The simplest way to do it (though probably not worth it) would be to divert
the Preston to Ormskirk service via a reinstated spur to a new bay platform
at Burscough Bridge, and extending the Liverpool to Ormskirk service via
another reinstated curve to another bay platform also at Burscough Bridge.

Peter

On Sep 5, 6:37 am, Chris Tolley <cj...@supanet.com> wrote:
> Mwmbwls wrote:
> > -More regular trains into Sellafield
>
More of a Mwmbwls quote than a Mwmbwls wrote.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:39:03 -0700 (PDT), Mwmbwls
<robertg.robinson@virgin.net> wrote:

>-For the period 2014 to 2019 Network Rail is proposing the
>resignalling scheme already planned for the Whitehaven-Maryport line
>should include a remodeling of the track layout in Maryport and the
>provision of an additional platform. The creation of a new Maryport
>signalling centre and the performance improvements that will bring may
>mean the possibility of running additional Sunday services.

This bit interests me.

Maryport station is a single platform on the down [1] side, but there
is an up track too, with no platform. Up trains calling there have to
cross over to the down line and back to do so.

Was there ever an up platform (i.e. did the Carlisle & Maryport build
one?).

[1] I am assuming here that "down" = "away from London"

"Mike Roebuck" <mike.roebuck@> wrote
>
> Maryport station is a single platform on the down [1] side, but there
> is an up track too, with no platform. Up trains calling there have to
> cross over to the down line and back to do so.
>
Which other stations on double track railways only have a single platform?
Bromsgrove was like this for a time, when it only had a very limited
passenger service, but it now has two platforms, and there is talk of
resiting it so that it can get longer platforms. Dunbar only has a single
platform, on the passenger loop on the up side. Polesworth currently only
has a single usable platform on the down slow, but up trains are unable to
call there at all.

Peter

"Neil Williams" <wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:26:38 +0100, Tony Polson
> <docnews2011@> wrote:
>
>>It could act as a catalyst for a wider electrification, with alternate
>>third rail DC trains from Liverpool going to Preston and Skem. Or
>>dual voltage units so the Preston electrification could be on the
>>cheaper 25kV system.
>
> Which is why it won't happen...
>
> Current talk is of upgrading the track on Preston-Ormskirk to allow
> 60mph running, removing the token equipment at Midge Hall to save
> another minute or two (making it one engine in steam throughout) and
> using a single unit for an hourly service.
>
> Neil
>

Given the frequent signal checks for almost every train in which I approach
Preston, I doubt that an hourly service is practicable with a single unit,
even if the Preston - Ormskirk schedule is reduced to 25 minutes. Or, the
amount of lateness would steadily increase throughout the day - until they
decided to cancel one round trip.

Bevan

Mwmbwls wrote:

>> It could act as a catalyst for a wider electrification, with alternate
>> third rail DC trains from Liverpool going to Preston and Skem. Or
>> dual voltage units so the Preston electrification could be on the
>> cheaper 25kV system.
>
> I agree about 25kv to Preston. However,part of the route from Ormskirk
> to Skelmersdale is destined to be occupied by the long delayed
> Ormskirk bypass.

The proposed road is intended to cross the alignment, but it won't be in
place in the near future, if ever: it's not a short piece of road, and
it's going to be expensive.

'Ormskirk bypass' is a bit of a misnomer too, the thing would be more a
'Southport spur from the M58'.

Mark