Merseyrail ban overnight parking at their stations

Noticed at my local station (Capenhurst) that Merseyrail has put a sign up
about 'conditions' of entry to it's stations. All sensible stuff about
behaviour etc but I noticed one which stated that "no overnight parking is
allowed at its stations"

Why?

Surely if someone is going for a night out in Liverpool for a drink or two
and then might want to leave the car at the station and come and pick it up
the next day.

Are Merseyrail encouraging drink driving?

Incidentally I only live 10 mins walk from the Capenhurst so no need for the
car either way!!!

Tim

On Sep 3, 8:31 pm, "Tim Rogers" <nos...@sapm.net> wrote:
> Noticed at my local station (Capenhurst) that Merseyrail has put a sign up
> about 'conditions' of entry to it's stations. All sensible stuff about
> behaviour etc but I noticed one which stated that "no overnight parking is
> allowed at its stations"
>
> Why?
>
This all started IIRC (alas the Ormskirk Advertiser archive is only
short term) in June when a passenger on a business trip from Ormskirk
with a through ticket on Virgin trains to London left his car
overnight at Ormskirk. On his return he found a penalty notice on his
car. Row ensued. On that occasion, I believe Merseyrail backed down
because there were no signs in the car park and hence would have been
on shaky legal ground if push came to shove. Hence today's posterior
camouflage by Scousetrains. Whether Merseyrail have consulted anybody
(DfT,ATOC,ORR etc.) is not known. Railwatch would probably be
interested if you are minded to make a complaint and of course Louise
Ellman, Chairman of the House of Commons Transport Committee is a
Merseyside MP.

"Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message
news:i7vtb41kcavgfjkgtdr018q426rdt3nfkd@news.marks house.net...
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:54:19 GMT, Neil Williams put finger to keyboard
> and typed:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:40:05 GMT, Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Tim Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Noticed at my local station (Capenhurst) that Merseyrail has put a sign
>>>> up
>>>> about 'conditions' of entry to it's stations. All sensible stuff about
>>>> behaviour etc but I noticed one which stated that "no overnight parking
>>>> is
>>>> allowed at its stations"
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>>So they can easily see if a car has been abandoned.
>>
>>I imagine a car can be classed as abandoned if parked without a valid
>>ticket for more than N days. That said, Merseyrail don't charge,
>>though LM certainly do so that can't be the reason for them.
>
> If the parking is free then the ban on overnight parking is primarily
> to stop local residents leaving their own vehicles there overnight or
> for the whole of the weekend instead of on the street or on their own
> premises. That's actually a very sensible policy, as it helps to
> ensure that the station car park remains available primarily for those
> who are actually using the railway.

Although at Capenhurst the nearest houses are about half a mile away.

Tim

On Sep 3, 11:51 pm, "tim....." <tims_new_h....uk> wrote:
> "Chris Tolley" <cj...@supanet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:qg4bua5v2u0i$.42cf4s34zbcv.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> > Tim Rogers wrote:
>
> >> Noticed at my local station (Capenhurst) that Merseyrail has put a sign
> >> up
> >> about 'conditions' of entry to it's stations. All sensible stuff about
> >> behaviour etc but I noticed one which stated that "no overnight parking
> >> is
> >> allowed at its stations"
>
> >> Why?
>
> > So they can easily see if a car has been abandoned.
>
> Surely in Liverpool that's easy.
>
> If it still has its wheels, the owner's coming back for it
>
> Tim

Cue the chorus of outraged scousers...

Rich

On Sep 4, 2:06 pm, "McKev" <scotsman_uk@-...@m> wrote:
> "Tim Rogers" <nos...@sapm.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6i8715FpdnkvU1@mid....
>
>
>
>
>
> > Noticed at my local station (Capenhurst) that Merseyrail has put a sign up
> > about 'conditions' of entry to it's stations. All sensible stuff about
> > behaviour etc but I noticed one which stated that "no overnight parking is
> > allowed at its stations"
>
> > Why?
>
> > Surely if someone is going for a night out in Liverpool for a drink or two
> > and then might want to leave the car at the station and come and pick it
> > up the next day.
>
> > Are Merseyrail encouraging drink driving?
>
> > Incidentally I only live 10 mins walk from the Capenhurst so no need for
> > the car either way!!!
>
> wonder what would happen if you caught a sleeper up to the Highlands and
> left your car at the station?
>
> McK.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I should imagine that the local yobs would have the wheels and the
stereo, Merseyrail would run off with the rest and then their car park
managment firm would have the audacity to send you a penalty charge
notice in the post...

Rich

In message
<fbe8dbfa-e8fd-4110-add2-2d011bf9fed3@2g2000hsn..com>, at
23:29:44 on Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Mwmbwls <robertg.robinson@virgin.net>
remarked:
>If there is not a double yellow line they should not have a fine."It
>gets as full as it is now at times and there are always cars parked on
>the sides."It's only this week they have been ticketing."

People used to park in all kinds of non-bay, but not obstructive, places
in Royston station carpark (especially the north side), then one day in
around 2002 they started ticketing people without warning. That was a
pay-and display, and they were ticketing people who had paid. It's not
clear to me if the Chester carpark in the story is free or pay.
--
Roland Perry

On 3 Sep, 20:59, Tim Woodall <devn...@woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:44:06 GMT,
>     Neil Williams <wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk> wrote:> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:31:47 +0100, "Tim Rogers" <nos...@sapm.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Surely if someone is going for a night out in Liverpool for a drink or two
> >>and then might want to leave the car at the station and come and pick it up
> >>the next day.
>
> > So you would think.
>
> >>Are Merseyrail encouraging drink driving?
>
> > No idea, but London Midland also have this nonsensical policy, so no
> > multiple-day parking for an InterCity journey either.
>
> And what does overnight parking mean as well. While it's unlikely, I
> could be asked to work AsiaPacific time (~9pm to ~9am).
> I don't have a car and I'm walking distance of the station but
> it's almost certain there are people working similar hours.

I used to park at Tonbridge (south eastern) for a week of night
shifts, arrived about 21:40, left about 12:00 (7x12 hour night
shifts). Saw my car on the news when the Tonbridge cash robbery
happened :)

I Bought a 7 day car park season, plus one day extention, and a 7 day
train ticket, plus an extra single off peak (shiftism by the railway
-- costs more to do 7 off peak shifts than 7 peak shifts)