National Rail Fares CD-ROM from TSO

On Sep 1, 7:55 pm, Roy Badami <r...@gnomon.org.uk> wrote:
> No price yet, but it's up on the web site.

Price £9.01 + VAT = £10.59 now listed.
Delivery now quoted as 1 - 2 days/

John

Marcus Fox wrote:
>
> I got free postage?

It's offering me free postage, too. (Not sure if the fact that I'm an
existing TSO customer makes a difference, but it's not like I've ordered
a huge amount from them.)

-roy

"Roy Badami" <roy@gnomon.org.uk> wrote in message
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> It's offering me free postage, too. (Not sure if the fact that I'm an
> existing TSO customer makes a difference, but it's not like I've ordered a
> huge amount from them.)

I think I used to get the old paper books with free shipping and that was
from DHL.

This time it's come up with Royal Mail for free and DHL at a charge. I am an
existing account holder with TSO too.

Anyway it's on its way in a day or 2!

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:38:17 -0700, Mizter T wrote:

<snip>
> I presume that making it
> available to the public is intentional (if so that's great, thanks for
> listening ATOC) but just in case it's not I decided to get in there
> ASAP.

I'm pretty sure it is intentional; there was a thread here to that effect
not so long ago. And at a reasonable price, too. Of course, I'll have to
reserve final judgement until I've actually got the CD in my drive, but a
provisional "Well done" goes to ATOC for this.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

On 2 Sep, 00:22, David Buttery <rabbit...@> wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:38:17 -0700, Mizter T wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > I presume that making it
> > available to the public is intentional (if so that's great, thanks for
> > listening ATOC) but just in case it's not I decided to get in there
> > ASAP.
>
> I'm pretty sure it is intentional; there was a thread here to that effect
> not so long ago. And at a reasonable price, too. Of course, I'll have to
> reserve final judgement until I've actually got the CD in my drive, but a
> provisional "Well done" goes to ATOC for this.
>

Aha, OK, thanks for the info - I've been well out of it with regards
to keeping up with happenings on usenet for quite a while over the
summer so I would've missed that news. Last time the Avantix Traveller
program was being discussed, I was opining of my wish (shared by many)
that someone in ATOC or elsewhere might leak it again - one rather
sensible reply to this was a wish that ATOC simply make it publicly
available for purchase. Voila!

On 2 Sep, 13:33, Richard Fairhurst <richa...@systemed.net> wrote:

> On Sep 2, 12:22 am, David Buttery <rabbit...@> wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure it is intentional; there was a thread here to that effect
> > not so long ago. And at a reasonable price, too. Of course, I'll have to
> > reserve final judgement until I've actually got the CD in my drive
>
> ...especially on the question of what format it'll be. The TSO website
> simply says "CD-ROM", with no indication that it might not be
> compatible with all systems - so, to me, that would suggest PDFs. But
> then it's still branded Avantix Traveller, so could be a Windows
> executable like the leaked version.
>

Very good point. I presume it's just an up to date version of the
Avantix Traveller program, hence a Windows executable. If this is the
case, it's a bit shabby of TSO not to make this clear, though in the
arena TSO operates in the general presumption that a desktop computer
runs Windows is the norm is hardly unusual - similarly, in the
creative industry arena the presumption is that people will be using
Apple Macs as their standard desktop computers.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:19:49 -0700, Mizter T wrote:

> Very good point. I presume it's just an up to date version of the
> Avantix Traveller program, hence a Windows executable. If this is the
> case, it's a bit shabby of TSO not to make this clear, though in the
> arena TSO operates in the general presumption that a desktop computer
> runs Windows is the norm is hardly unusual - similarly, in the creative
> industry arena the presumption is that people will be using Apple Macs
> as their standard desktop computers.

Well, I can run the old Avantix program in Linux (Mandriva 2008) via
Wine, and except for some rather small fonts it works perfectly well. I
don't know much about Macs, but if there's a version of Wine (or similar)
for OS X then hopefully it would work for them as well.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

On 2 Sep, 14:46, David Buttery <rabbit...@> wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:19:49 -0700, Mizter T wrote:
> > Very good point. I presume it's just an up to date version of the
> > Avantix Traveller program, hence a Windows executable. If this is the
> > case, it's a bit shabby of TSO not to make this clear, though in the
> > arena TSO operates in the general presumption that a desktop computer
> > runs Windows is the norm is hardly unusual - similarly, in the creative
> > industry arena the presumption is that people will be using Apple Macs
> > as their standard desktop computers.
>
> Well, I can run the old Avantix program in Linux (Mandriva 2008) via
> Wine, and except for some rather small fonts it works perfectly well. I
> don't know much about Macs, but if there's a version of Wine (or similar)
> for OS X then hopefully it would work for them as well.
>

Note that I was careful to follow Richard Fairhurst's earlier
description of it being a "Windows executable", rather than describing
it as a Windows-only application or other words to that effect - just
as there's more than one way to skin a cat, there's more than one way
to run a Windows program!

"Paul Scott" <notvalidpmscott@> wrote in message
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> That's enough on line ordering now, because
>
> a. They'll realise it's popular and put the price up.
> b. There are now enough of you to answer uk.railway queries without the
> rest of us buying as well...

Ah yes, but what happens when we are all away, off working, or without
internot. And remember in this modern world we need to cover all of the time
zones you know so I think a few more people can still order yet!

heh

> Well, I can run the old Avantix program in Linux (Mandriva 2008) via
> Wine, and except for some rather small fonts it works perfectly well. I
> don't know much about Macs, but if there's a version of Wine (or similar)
> for OS X then hopefully it would work for them as well.

You could do that, but the brute force solution I use is VMware
(Parallels or similar will do as well) with a genuine full XP license
(ie, not OEM, but a real retain copy) I bought in a moment of
weakness. VMware supports the Solaris 10, Solaris 11, Fedora Latest
and Windows images I keep on my home iMac for reference. At work I
obviously have plenty of Suns, Linux boxes and Citrix servers
available, so I just use RDP and X11 to access those.

And in fact, the ``oh, this is Windows only'' is more of a problem at
home: there are some websites I'm prepared to boycott until they get
their standards compliance sorted (indeed, Virgin Wines noted my
ceasing ordering when they broke it, acknowledged my complaint, and a
few weeks later phoned to ask me to test and confirm they'd fixed the
IE6 dependancy) but there are others where money talks (Air France
quoted me 200 quid less for some tickets recently, so I swallowed my
pride and used IE to pay). But at work, we have cross-browser
compliance as a high priority for internal applications (we run a
large Linux and Solaris product development shop, with ~200
engineers, but do no Windows development for sale at all, so any
internal application has to be cross-platform) and it's unlikely that
an application will work on ~700 Windows desktops and ~200 Linux/
Solaris desktops and not work on the handful of Macs, and if that does
happen there's always (gag) Firefox.

ian