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Old 31st August 2008, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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nickw7coc@ wrote:
> A new steam railway museum is being planned <snip>


Do we really need another one?

Another shed for people to play trains in and build little empires
whilst moaning about their "right" to run their toys on the mainline
network which no one will let them have..........
 
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Old 1st September 2008, 05:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In message <aZydneHtte5jtSbVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@posted.plusnet >, at
00:28:03 on Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.com.invalid>
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>There is one for Polson et al.
>
>If someone has a working loco which meets the appropriate standards,
>and can crew it, do they now have a "right" of access to national
>networks? Even RFF, the French Network Rail, have had to let other
>people onto their tracks.


I wouldn't call it a "right to access any bit of the network you
wanted", but like a car licence or a British Waterways boat licence, or
a CAA aircraft licence, if there's a scheme whereby a qualifying
car/boat/loco/plane can be issued with a "permit", then that implies you
are "permitted" to use the car/boat/loco/plane according to some set of
widely understood restrictions.
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Old 1st September 2008, 06:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Arthur Figgis wrote:

> If someone has a working loco which meets the appropriate standards, and
> can crew it, do they now have a "right" of access to national networks?
> Even RFF, the French Network Rail, have had to let other people onto
> their tracks.
>


AIUI yes, and of course there is a lot of it about, but
it's the 'meeting the national standards' that's the
tricky part.

That doesn't mean you can run a regular service with
your loco.

Charlie


 
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Old 2nd September 2008, 03:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In message <KIOdnQKvF7qRyiHVnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, at
21:56:48 on Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.com.invalid>
remarked:
>> I wouldn't call it a "right to access any bit of the network you
>>wanted", but like a car licence or a British Waterways boat licence,
>>or a CAA aircraft licence, if there's a scheme whereby a qualifying
>>car/boat/loco/plane can be issued with a "permit", then that implies
>>you are "permitted" to use the car/boat/loco/plane according to some
>>set of widely understood restrictions.

>
>But AIUI (and I'm not claiming any expertise in Euro-law!) they can't
>turn you down because they just don't like the look of you?


Probably true, but there might be plenty of other reasons (on the
waterways "water shortage" for example).
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