First TPE Advance tickets

Using The NREJP fares query for £18 advance on the 10 & 11 Sep the
following are available

Outward

Please select a journey
Date [10/09/2008]
Depart Arrive Duration Changes
[hh/mm] 10:22 14:09 3:47 1
[hh/mm] 11:22 15:06 3:44 1
[hh/mm] 12:22 16:13 3:51 1

Date [11/09/2008]
Depart Arrive Duration Changes
[hh/mm] 10:22 14:09 3:47 1
[hh/mm] 11:22 15:06 3:44 1
[hh/mm] 12:22 16:13 3:51 1

So there are lots of cheap fares available

collybs wrote:
> Using The NREJP fares query for £18 advance on the 10 & 11 Sep the
> following are available
>
> Outward
>
> Please select a journey
> Date [10/09/2008]
> Depart Arrive Duration Changes
> [hh/mm] 10:22 14:09 3:47 1
> [hh/mm] 11:22 15:06 3:44 1
> [hh/mm] 12:22 16:13 3:51 1
>
> Date [11/09/2008]
> Depart Arrive Duration Changes
> [hh/mm] 10:22 14:09 3:47 1
> [hh/mm] 11:22 15:06 3:44 1
> [hh/mm] 12:22 16:13 3:51 1
>
> So there are lots of cheap fares available

Interesting - so why don't they show up on the same dates if you use the
normal journey query, rather than the fares query?

This needs sorting - it wouldn't be the first time one of these discussions
had shown this, the obvious immediate solution is to ring the TOC's ticket
line or visit an office.

Another example available via the 'fares query' is £21.00 at 1222 on 22nd
July, next Tuesday. Couldnt be bothered to look for more.

Paul

Chris Tolley wrote:
> Nodding Donkey wrote:
>
>> It can't be good that one cannot get advance tickets between two of
>> England's most important cities.
>
> There are more important pairings than Newcastle-Liverpool for which
> this is also true, though few of them would be so widely spaced.

But its been well established now that there are plenty of Advance fares
available for this route - they just aren't being presented by the
planner...

Paul

Neil Williams wrote:
> Nodding Donkey wrote:
>
>> Is there any way they could programme the trainline to look for
>> advance tickets on both legs of a two leg journey, and then add the
>> prices? e.g. in this case changing at York is suggested by the
>> trainline, therefore how difficult would it be to quote a Liverpool-
>> York and a York-Newcastle fare?
>
> Very difficult - how would it know where to split?
>

As we have now discovered, TPEx Advance tickets are available, and they are
split at York. So I had a look in case the OJP is splitting the journey
somewhere else such as Piccadilly, but no, it uses York as well. So it seems
to be an issue with the OJP, especially as someone has posted that the NXEC
planner succesfully finds the fares.

It's no good us discussing it here every few weeks though, it needs ATOC (or
someone) to fix it properly...

Paul

Nodding Donkey wrote:

> Thanks, that is useful. Why can't I do that on theTrainline or
> whatever? I'm a crank - if I don't know these things how will the
> normals know?
>
> As it happens the cheapest fares on the date I want to travel works
> out at £80. The £19 saved is probably not worth the loss of
> flexibility in this case - particularly on a long journey with young
> children. All very interesting stuff however as I generally end up
> helping people at work in booking the cheapest tickets.

You should also know that The Trainline charge booking fees, ticket
collection fees and postage fees. NXEC charge none of these things. NXEC
also give a 10% discount on their own fares.

Your first mistake was using The Trainline!

Philip.