Waterloo International

On Jul 10, 4:29 pm, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
wrote:


> The Railway Magazine is suggesting this month, in a small piece on p11,
> that:
>
> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."


Do they quote a source ?


--
Nick

On Jul 10, 9:16 pm, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
wrote:

> >> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
> >> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."



IMHO there would already have been wider reporting of this matter if
it were true, given the lag from press to print, and the way things
leak these days, so I'll go along with them being out of date for now.

--
Nick

In message
<2d9f99d2-82fa-417c-a22d-90962456b656@l42g2000hsc..com>, at
06:32:07 on Sun, 13 Jul 2008, rannochmoor@ remarked:
>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>capital?

Isn't the new development to the north of the station? And this is the
station where the light is so bright no-one can read the hi-tech
departure boards?

>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>back of plans?

They'll slow it down, for sure. And a 50:50 chance that a huge 1930's
type recession means it's actually turned into a soup kitchen.
--
Roland Perry

<rannochmoor@> wrote
>
>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>capital?
>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>back of plans?

Among the ideas for Waterloo is extending track back into the concourse, as
part of a 10-car scheme for suburban services, and constructing a new
concourse at undercroft level. If this is likely to happen, it would not be
a good move to extend the existing main concourse over then low level E*
concourse.

Peter

"Peter Masson" <peter.masson1@> wrote in message
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>
> <rannochmoor@> wrote
>>
>>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>>capital?
>>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>>back of plans?
>
> Among the ideas for Waterloo is extending track back into the concourse,
> as
> part of a 10-car scheme for suburban services, and constructing a new
> concourse at undercroft level. If this is likely to happen, it would not
> be
> a good move to extend the existing main concourse over then low level E*
> concourse.
>

I don't think the concourse depth at the south end would gain more than 1
car length though, presuming there'd still have to be access to the platform
ends, which is why all the reports propose change at the other end as well.

It was originally thought the Eurostar low level concourse would be covered,
but on the basis that that area will now be knocked through to any new
undercroft development, I too doubt that will happen.

I suspect that's where the idea of shops comes in, where the Eurostar
departure lounge was, to provide the station with more retail facilities to
compensate for those removed as part of the barrier scheme.

I had a quick look at the planning stuff for the Elizabeth house area,
although it fits in with an undercroft access on that side of the station, I
still can't see the point of shops at the platform level, all the recent NR
published info, such as Route plan 3 (April 08) brings the platforms back
into use in the period 2012 - 2014, and it is still happening in the ORR
April report on the 2008 periodic review. The Railway Magazine article must
date from late May or early June depending on deadlines, if true it is a
major U-turn...

Paul S