APT and speed records

On Jul 7, 6:13 pm, Stimpy <stimpy199...m> wrote:
> Just watching the recent 'Brits That Made The Modern World' episode about the
> APT and they've mentioned that, prior to July 1975, the British rail speed
> record was 144mph.  What set that record?  Not a WCML electric, surely?


As a matter of interest , in about 1971 E3173 was fitted with
a HST style front for a while for high speed testing runs but
I,m not sure of the speeds it attained

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On Jul 7, 6:13 pm, Stimpy <stimpy199...m> wrote:
>> Just watching the recent 'Brits That Made The Modern World' episode about
>> the
>> APT and they've mentioned that, prior to July 1975, the British rail
>> speed
>> record was 144mph. What set that record? Not a WCML electric, surely?


>As a matter of interest , in about 1971 E3173 was fitted with
>a HST style front for a while for high speed testing runs but
>I,m not sure of the speeds it attained.

Thinking about it, the 140-odd achieved by the prototype HST was never an
absolute record - though it was for diesel tracton. What about APT-E on the
GWML? Wasn't that 155 mph?

Regards

Jonathan

"Stimpy" <stimpy1997ukm> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:50:37 +0100, Jonathan Morton wrote
>>
>>>> Just watching the recent 'Brits That Made The Modern World' episode
>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>> APT and they've mentioned that, prior to July 1975, the British rail
>>>> speed
>>>> record was 144mph. What set that record? Not a WCML electric, surely?
>>
>>
>>> As a matter of interest , in about 1971 E3173 was fitted with
>>> a HST style front for a while for high speed testing runs but
>>> I,m not sure of the speeds it attained.
>>
>> Thinking about it, the 140-odd achieved by the prototype HST was never an
>> absolute record - though it was for diesel tracton. What about APT-E on
>> the
>> GWML? Wasn't that 155 mph?
>
> On the WCML - 155mph in July 1975 - that's what the programme was about

Sorry, it was reference to West Coast that confused me. Surely it was the
GW? But I had forgotten that the record run was as late as 1975.

Regards

Jonathan

"Stimpy" <stimpy1997ukm> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:50:37 +0100, Jonathan Morton wrote
>>
>>>> Just watching the recent 'Brits That Made The Modern World' episode
>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>> APT and they've mentioned that, prior to July 1975, the British rail
>>>> speed
>>>> record was 144mph. What set that record? Not a WCML electric, surely?
>>
>>
>>> As a matter of interest , in about 1971 E3173 was fitted with
>>> a HST style front for a while for high speed testing runs but
>>> I,m not sure of the speeds it attained.
>>
>> Thinking about it, the 140-odd achieved by the prototype HST was never an
>> absolute record - though it was for diesel tracton. What about APT-E on
>> the
>> GWML? Wasn't that 155 mph?
>
> On the WCML - 155mph in July 1975 - that's what the programme was about

APT's speed record was on the GWML. I had to examine its wheels at Old Oak
in the middle of the night.

Peter Fox