Travelling short: Would this be wrong, and would I get caught?

In message <486f64be.667613860@news.***************>, at 12:11:10 on Sat,
5 Jul 2008, Neil Williams <wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>The small fee for admin (a few tens of pounds perhaps) is the start, but
>>they'll also charge you the difference between what you paid for your
>>fare and their "last minute" fare - which in contrast to the eponymous
>>website will be the highest fare there ever is.

The above is flying *from* home early (or even late, I suppose; any
change of flight).

>Flying towards home, no they won't, unless they have changed it back
>from what it was a few months ago. It's a flat gbp35.

<confused> Flying back home early the change of flight should be free.
It was when I did it in May.
--
Roland Perry

"Peter Masson" <peter.masson1@************> wrote in message
news:fZmdnXjYzcut0PDVnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "The Real Doctor" <ian.groups@***************> wrote
>>
>> There used to be two 1703 trains from Birmingham New Street to
>> Edinburgh: one WCML and one ECML. I regularly saw people travel by
>> accident on the wrong one. Although announcements were made, many
>> people would simply think "Ah good. The 1703 Edinburgh train" and not
>> even consider the possibility that there might be two. Come to that,
>> I'll be many people going Birmingham to Edinburgh wouldn't know what
>> route to expect.
>>
> There are still several examples of two departures at the same time from
> Birmingham New Street to Edinburgh, or in some cases, Glasgow Central. But
> they are now distinguished as the e.g. 1803 Virgin trains service to
> Edinburgh (via WCML) and the 1803 Cross Country service to Edinburgh (via
> ECML).

That is indeed true at New Street. But, curiously, I've never heard an
announcement that says which one will get to Edinburgh first - i.e. which
train you should catch if you're travelling on a Saver or Open ticket as
opposed to an AP.

Regards

Jonathan

In message <48701a51.714097868@news.***************>, at 01:05:42 on Sun,
6 Jul 2008, Neil Williams <wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>><confused> Flying back home early the change of flight should be free.
>>It was when I did it in May.
>
>It's free to travel earlier, but a "rescue fee" of GBP 35 to travel
>later.

I don't remember reading about that. Is that later the same day, or
later any day? And does it work in both directions?

Is there any time limit on when it can be arranged - otherwise I could
buy a really cheap flight then pick and choose when "later" to fly.
--
Roland Perry

In message <hjs374d00cmnvb15rhb8ma2od2uhplpshm@********>, Tony Polson
<docnews2011@***************> writes
>If you take the discount, the conditions come with it. If you won't
>accept the conditions, you have no right to the discount.
Only if you are free to read them prior to purchase, otherwise small
print is now not acceptable in court according to "Which".
--
Clive

On Jul 4, 1:56 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:

>
> I don't think most rail commuters have a practical choice.  They're
> largely a captive market.

But in general rail commuters will not be using advance purchase
single tickets - they'll have a season or buy daily, and won't really
run into this problem.

In message <v1ff74l6bebkrt2lndafvl2nqqctitm9s9@********>, at 21:05:41 on
Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Tony Polson <docnews2011@***************> remarked:
>By buying the discounted ticket you have accepted the conditions under
>which it is issued. Deliberate misuse of the ticket is fraudulent.

I was talking to someone earlier who recounted how they got off the
train at Birmingham International by mistake, when they had a ticket to
Birmingham New Street. Was that fraudulent?
--
Roland Perry

On Jul 11, 9:16 pm, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <v1ff74l6bebkrt2lndafvl2nqqctitm...@********>, at 21:05:41 on
> Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Tony Polson <docnews2...@***************> remarked:
>
> >By buying the discounted ticket you have accepted the conditions under
> >which it is issued. Deliberate misuse of the ticket is fraudulent.
>
> I was talking to someone earlier who recounted how they got off the
> train at Birmingham International by mistake, when they had a ticket to
> Birmingham New Street. Was that fraudulent?
> --
> Roland Perry

Roland - that is a very good point. Presumably the ticket is issued
to "Birmingham stns" - or does the group just consist of New St, Moor
St and Snow Hill?

In message
<1e482a73-0e6f-43a8-b312-3f8a8c18c89c@z6g2000pre.************.com>, at
23:51:08 on Thu, 17 Jul 2008, jdfi@************ remarked:
>> >By buying the discounted ticket you have accepted the conditions under
>> >which it is issued. Deliberate misuse of the ticket is fraudulent.
>>
>> I was talking to someone earlier who recounted how they got off the
>> train at Birmingham International by mistake, when they had a ticket to
>> Birmingham New Street. Was that fraudulent?
>
>Roland - that is a very good point. Presumably the ticket is issued
>to "Birmingham stns" - or does the group just consist of New St, Moor
>St and Snow Hill?

It was an AP ticket, hence the possibility of being invalid by "stopping
short". I don't think Birmingham International is in the Birmingham
Group with those other stations you mention, especially for fares
purposes.
--
Roland Perry