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Old 1st July 2008, 07:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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One incident in the city centre and the Eccles service goes bus only!
- Why - when the Alty services were being turned at Central?

Surely the Eccles service could have run from Cornbrook - or were
there only one or two sets left west of the incident and these got
allocated to the Alty service for convenience?

The system is far from incident "proof" and it shows

 
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Old 1st July 2008, 08:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Michael Bell" <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2049e8b74f.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co. uk...
> In message <9spi64lmjf6n4coe4q6k1ptvfh0o13rm8u@>
> Charles Ellson <charles@ellson.> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:14:47 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
> > <conn1231@> wrote:
> >>
> >>How do you get 300 people on one of them most i seen is proberly just
> >>short of 200 and that was hell
> >>

> > If it was a pop concert then I suspect the average size of person
> > concerned was a bit less than the typical passenger..

>
> More interestingly, what caused it? The witness does not describe any
> obstacle on the track, so presumably some track or wheel fault.
>

Perhaps there were 300 people on it and it derailed as a consequence of
being overloaded. ;-)

Peter


 
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Old 1st July 2008, 01:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:25:19 +0100, "Peter Masson"
<peter.masson1@> wrote:

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>"Michael Bell" <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:2049e8b74f.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co .uk...
>> In message <9spi64lmjf6n4coe4q6k1ptvfh0o13rm8u@>
>> Charles Ellson <charles@ellson.> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:14:47 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
>> > <conn1231@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>How do you get 300 people on one of them most i seen is proberly just
>> >>short of 200 and that was hell
>> >>
>> > If it was a pop concert then I suspect the average size of person
>> > concerned was a bit less than the typical passenger..

>>
>> More interestingly, what caused it? The witness does not describe any
>> obstacle on the track, so presumably some track or wheel fault.
>>

>Perhaps there were 300 people on it and it derailed as a consequence of
>being overloaded. ;-)


Many a true word spoken (written) in jest.

Isn't there some sort of rule about the centre of gravity of a vehicle
being affected by overloading?

I recall DB slapping draconian speed restrictions on trains in 1989
when the Iron Curtain came down, because of serious overcrowding. I'm
sure I remember reading that the centre of gravity played a role in
this.

Perhaps it was too many boisterous kids partying on the overladen tram
which derailed it?




 
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Old 1st July 2008, 05:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Chris Tolley wrote:
> Peter Masson wrote:
>
>> Perhaps there were 300 people on it and it derailed as a consequence of
>> being overloaded. ;-)

>
> Perhaps they were all pogoing.
>


The pictures seem to suggest that something prevented the
articulation from reverting to straight after the sharp
curve. Could overloading cause this?

Charlie

 
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