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Old 23rd June 2008, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Signalling Problems in Leicester Area - again?!

It seems like almost everyday trains are delayed or cancelled somewhere
along the MML.
Over the last few weeks there must have been four or five times where I've
seen 'signalling problems' somewhere between Nottingham & Bedford. Last
Friday the whole line to Nottingham closed due to 'major signalling failure'
and now again today there are 60 min delays due to signalling problems in
Leicester area. The other week it was Loughborough that had the signalling
problems - once again 50-70 min delays.

What's going on? The frequency of problems suggest that something is very
wrong in the area or is it just gypos stealing cables again?

I'm going to Europe by Eurostar on Thursday and am worried I'll miss it if
these frequent problems flare up again.
Incidentally, if a domestic train is late/cancelled do you have any come
back on E*? Can you take a later train or are you forced to buy a new
ticket?

 
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Old 26th June 2008, 03:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In message <5h47641j2lf7un5pd4qntl8uqhgk1ugnl2@>, at 20:08:46 on
Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Mike Roebuck <mike.roebuck@> remarked:
>I asked my contact about this. He says that if you are making an
>international journey, any combination of tickets will give you CIV
>protection.
>
>That was also my understanding.


So why do CIV tickets exist at all?
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Old 26th June 2008, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:47:54 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <5h47641j2lf7un5pd4qntl8uqhgk1ugnl2@>, at 20:08:46 on
>Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Mike Roebuck <mike.roebuck@> remarked:
>>I asked my contact about this. He says that if you are making an
>>international journey, any combination of tickets will give you CIV
>>protection.
>>
>>That was also my understanding.

>
>So why do CIV tickets exist at all?


I've given that some thought. I believe membership of COTIF (which the
UK enjoys), and to which CIV is an appendix, gives an obligation to
publish a TCV tariff. The tickets referred to in this and other
threads as CIV tickets are strictly speaking TCV tickets. They have
advantages in that they are not affected by the same restrictions that
can be applied to domestic operators' tickets.

I'm happy to be corrected if this assumption is incorrect, but I don't
believe it is.

I'll dig out my copy of the CIV when I have a minute, but I'm certain
it applies to international journeys, not tickets. The ticket
combination is irrelevant, as long as the journey is international,
and between two or more member countries of COTIF.





 
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Old 27th June 2008, 05:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:00:18 GMT, wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil
Williams) wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:30:16 +0200, Mike Roebuck
><mike.roebuck@> wrote:
>
>>I've given that some thought. I believe membership of COTIF (which the
>>UK enjoys), and to which CIV is an appendix, gives an obligation to
>>publish a TCV tariff. The tickets referred to in this and other
>>threads as CIV tickets are strictly speaking TCV tickets. They have
>>advantages in that they are not affected by the same restrictions that
>>can be applied to domestic operators' tickets.
>>
>>I'm happy to be corrected if this assumption is incorrect, but I don't
>>believe it is.

>
>I'm not sure it necessarily is, as the UK TCV tariff isn't the same as
>these London International tickets - it is, as I recall, generally
>quite a bit higher.


I don't have a copy of it, so I can't comment with certainty, but it
isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that the rates in it have been
revised.

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