Luton airport

On 29 May, 19:00, Arthur Figgis <afig...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
> I need to get to Luton Airport from Southern/Thameslink-land tomorrow.
> The local ticket office prodded their computer, but thought that Luton
> Plusbus probably wasn't the answer. So what ticket do I need to get me
> to the station and then on the no-longer free bus? I have a Gold Card.
>
> --
> Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

You need a ticket to Luton Airport., rather than Luton Airport Parkway
- the former includes the bus transfer.

In message <OcGdnXBipO6icqPVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@posted.plusnet >, at
19:00:31 on Thu, 29 May 2008, Arthur Figgis
<afiggis@example.com.invalid> remarked:
>I need to get to Luton Airport from Southern/Thameslink-land tomorrow.
>The local ticket office prodded their computer, but thought that Luton
>Plusbus probably wasn't the answer. So what ticket do I need to get me
>to the station and then on the no-longer free bus? I have a Gold Card.

A through ticket to Luton Airport :) No, seriously.

If they can't find that, then a man stood on the pavement next to the
bus will sell you a single ticket for £1.50 (iirc).
--
Roland Perry

On 29 May, 20:30, Arthur Figgis <afig...@example.com.invalid> wrote:

> Roland Perry wrote:
>
> > In message <OcGdnXBipO6icqPVnZ2dneKdnZydn...@posted.plusnet >, at
> > 19:00:31 on Thu, 29 May 2008, Arthur Figgis
> > <afig...@example.com.invalid> remarked:
> >> I need to get to Luton Airport from Southern/Thameslink-land tomorrow.
> >> The local ticket office prodded their computer, but thought that Luton
> >> Plusbus probably wasn't the answer. So what ticket do I need to get me
> >> to the station and then on the no-longer free bus? I have a Gold Card.
>
> > A through ticket to Luton Airport :) No, seriously.
>
> That's what the booking clerk and I both guessed at, but the computer
> hasn't heard of that as an option. I'll try a bigger station...
>
> > If they can't find that, then a man stood on the pavement next to the
> > bus will sell you a single ticket for £1.50 (iirc).
>
> Cheaper than a London bus, I suppose!
>

I haven't paid £2 on a London bus since... well, since about a month
ago when I forgot my Oyster card, but before that it was a good year
if not longer. I can't help but think that people who routinely pay
their bus fare by cash are masochists!

Arthur Figgis wrote:
> Roland Perry wrote:
>> A through ticket to Luton Airport :) No, seriously.
>
> That's what the booking clerk and I both guessed at, but the computer
> hasn't heard of that as an option. I'll try a bigger station...
>
The NLC they need to use for Luton Airport itself is 3667. If the ticket
machine won't issue it as a through fare, they could try issuing it as
<Your Station> - Luton Airport Parkway and a separate Luton Airport
Parkway - Luton Airport ticket.

HTH,

Barry

On Thu, 29 May 2008 21:01:04 GMT, wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil
Williams) wrote:

>On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:40:57 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
><mizter.t@> wrote:
>
>Given the security risk of carrying cash and the cost of processing
>it, which could be neatly offloaded onto Tube ticket offices and
>Ticket Stops, could TfL's next move perhaps be for all buses to be
>cashless?

This policy was floated well over a year ago and did feature in TfL
Board minutes with a view to introducing totally cashless services some
time this year IIRC. Since then it has gone very quiet and I think
there is no appetite to introduce it because there are very real
practical issues about going cashless e.g hail and ride services, far
flung, low frequency services with no Ticket Stops close by (Routes R5,
W10 and 465 all spring to mind) etc. The other issue is that cash sales
are now so low that they've probably got a lot of the benefits already
and it would cost a far slice of money (which TfL don't have) in order
to remove cash completely. There'd also be a (smallish) risk of a
backlash if it was to go ahead and I don't see Boris supporting an
unpopular "old" policy this early in his mayoralty.

--
Paul C

Steve M wrote:

> Until recently, ticket machines could not issue Network Card discounted
> tickets to "Luton Airport" - does anyone know if this has now been fixed?
>

Pass. However, I'd expect the bus shuttle fare to be undiscountable, as
per all the other add-ons (except PlusBus). If that is indeed the case,
the easiest thing to do is issue it as two separate tickets:

A Railcard discounted ticket from <Your Station> to Luton Airport Parkway

An undiscounted ticket from Luton Airport Parkway to Luton Airport

Cheers,

Barry

On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:54:56 +0100, Paul Corfield
<aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 May 2008 21:01:04 GMT, wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil
>Williams) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:40:57 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
>><mizter.t@> wrote:
>>
>>Given the security risk of carrying cash and the cost of processing
>>it, which could be neatly offloaded onto Tube ticket offices and
>>Ticket Stops, could TfL's next move perhaps be for all buses to be
>>cashless?
>
>This policy was floated well over a year ago and did feature in TfL
>Board minutes with a view to introducing totally cashless services some
>time this year IIRC. Since then it has gone very quiet and I think
>there is no appetite to introduce it because there are very real
>practical issues about going cashless e.g hail and ride services, far
>flung, low frequency services with no Ticket Stops close by (Routes R5,
>W10 and 465 all spring to mind) etc. The other issue is that cash sales
>are now so low that they've probably got a lot of the benefits already
>and it would cost a far slice of money (which TfL don't have) in order
>to remove cash completely. There'd also be a (smallish) risk of a
>backlash if it was to go ahead and I don't see Boris supporting an
>unpopular "old" policy this early in his mayoralty.
>
Isn't their something buried in the depths of bus/PSV law which
prevents refusing a passenger with identification being kept off a bus
merely because they haven't got the means of immediate payment ?

On 29 Mai, 22:40, Mizter T <mizte...@> wrote:

>
> I haven't paid £2 on a London bus since... well, since about a month
> ago when I forgot my Oyster card, but before that it was a good year
> if not longer. I can't help but think that people who routinely pay
> their bus fare by cash are masochists!-

If tickets cost a pound a piece
Why should you make a fuss?
It's worth it just to ride inside
That 30-foot-long by 10-foot-wide
Inside that monarch of the road,
Observer of the Highway Code,
That big six-wheeler scarlet-painted London transport diesel-engined
97-horsepower, 97-horsepower omnibus.

In message <1d55c1a74f%Rail@greywall.>, at 21:40:16 on Fri,
30 May 2008, Graeme Wall <Rail@greywall.> remarked:
>When did 6-wheelers last operate in London?

Still are, as tour buses, I believe. (You may mean three axles rather
than six wheels, as I'm pretty sure they have ten wheels).
--
Roland Perry

Bill Hayles wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:39:04 +0100, Peter Beale <peter@pjbeale.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> LT - the ST had 4 wheels (I think the L and S stood for Long and Short).
>
> The absolute pedant in me suggests that ST was Standard Type, hence STL
> - Standard Type Lengthened.
>
> A topic that has been debated, as nauseam, in a n other place, coming to
> no real conclusion (a bit like BIG and CIG over the years).
>
>
I'm sure you're right. But although it is quite a few years since they
were all running around together in London, the STL never struck me as
being longer than the ST - was it?

Peter Beale