Compartments and bays (was How high does the oil price have to getbefore unnecessary diesel)

On May 13, 6:28 am, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams)
wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:42:40 +0100, Graeme Wall
>
> <R...@greywall.> wrote:
> >The general public doesn't like them, that's why modern stock doesn't have
> >them.
>
> I reckon the reason is more like that they cost more to install and
> maintain (and to prevent vandalism) and take up more space.
>
> Neil

Yes, a citation for the claim that the public doesn't like them would
be useful.

Certain people here insist that Joe Public prefers airline seating,
BUT a Passenger Focus poll says:

60% Facing seats in opposite directions with a table
32% Airline style - rows of seats facing the same direction
8% Facing seats in opposite directions

On May 13, 4:18 pm, Mike Roebuck <mike.roeb...@> wrote:


> On Tue, 13 May 2008 05:19:00 -0700 (PDT), John B <s...@johnband.org>
> wrote:

> >In other words, although single occupancy of a table is preferred on
> >an empty train, and therefore the /ideal/ for most people, on a full
> >train they'd rather sit with one stranger on an airline seat than with
> >three strangers on a table.

> I think that's about legroom. That's certainly why I do it.


I disagree - I do it on a partially filled train on a glance at how
the occupiers of already taken seats appear and behave. It is an
arbitrary choice and purely subjective, but it is a conscious
decision.

--
Nick

On May 13, 8:21 pm, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:

> And it's amazing how one "businessman" can occupy an entire
> table-for-four once he's spread out a laptop, newspapers, other papers,
> etc.
>
> Anyone would think he'd grown up watching those "Age of the Train"
> commercials where everyone did indeed get a whole table to themselves.


Not just businessmen.

An extreme example of deliberately doing this I saw last when the 31s
were working that Fridays only Bristol Brighton diagram.

4 ''top 31 bashers'' (so ''top'' their entire 31 mileage and
conversation was limited to the hadful of Fragonset machines) occupied
4 bays on departure from Brighton - and that was a very busy train on
a Friday afternoon. They each placed their over large ''Head'' bag
(thats shows how ''top'' they were - symbolic Head bags) at the
gangway end of each table, spread timetables and food all over the
rest of the table. All this was to ensure they had a bay each rather
than site all together in one bay. Meanwhile many ''normal''
passengers were standing - no one challenged them.

--
Nick