Great bit of planning...NOT!

Barry Salter wrote:
>
> And just for added fun, there are temporary Ladies and Accessible
> toilets located on Platform 1

I've seen some dodgy people around Marylebone and I had wondered about
them - but I'd never heard them described as 'temporary Ladies' before.
;-)

Wembley is a damn silly place to have a national stadium anyway. I
would have thought somewhere nearer the middle of the population
density would have been far more sensible.

Ah! I've just noticed the fatal flaw in my thinking.

Matt Wheeler wrote:

> True, there will be a large number of fans through Marylebone, but
> this is usual for any major event at Wembley, and don't forget the Met
> to Wembley Park and there may be some people using the Central Line to
> Wembley Central.
>
I think they may be better advised to take the Bakerloo Line if they are
going to Wembley Central. :-)

Peter Beale

Peter Beale <peter@pjbeale.net> writes:

> I think they may be better advised to take the Bakerloo Line if they are
> going to Wembley Central. :-)

Which as both Paddington and Waterloo are also on the Bakerloo line
would mean a direct service with no change, and no crowd clash at
Marylebone with passengers to/from the West Midlands.

On May 13, 10:10 am, John B <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
> On 13 May, 09:13, m1ss_wh1te <m1ss_wh....uk> wrote:
>
> > Wembley is a damn silly place to have a national stadium anyway. I
> > would have thought somewhere nearer the middle of the population
> > density would have been far more sensible.
>
> > Ah! I've just noticed the fatal flaw in my thinking.
>
> Wembley isn't going to be all that far away from the middle of the
> population density, is it?
>
How silly of me not to have said "the middle of the UK's population
density" and to have forgotten that the World ends just north of
Watford.

"m1ss_wh1te" <m1ss_wh1te.uk> wrote in message
news:f46609c6-c67a-4534-8e6b-187fcbb6bbd9@s50g2000hsb..com...
On May 13, 10:10 am, John B <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
> On 13 May, 09:13, m1ss_wh1te <m1ss_wh....uk> wrote:
>
> > Wembley is a damn silly place to have a national stadium anyway. I
> > would have thought somewhere nearer the middle of the population
> > density would have been far more sensible.
>
> > Ah! I've just noticed the fatal flaw in my thinking.
>
> Wembley isn't going to be all that far away from the middle of the
> population density, is it?
>

> How silly of me not to have said "the middle of the UK's population
> density" and to have forgotten that the World ends just north of
> Watford.

It's the English FA cup though, not the UK FA Cup... (Despite Cardiff being
in it...)

Paul

>
> Why not hold the match at either Cardiff or Portsmouth ?

Tradition and the need for a neutral stadium.

On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:34:49 +0100, Graeme Wall
<Rail@greywall.> wrote:

>In message <1rm5wtzsl3l1n$.kbpd19jwxrkc.dlg@40tude.net>
> Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com> wrote:
>
>> Graeme Wall wrote:
>>
>> > In message
>> > <f46609c6-c67a-4534-8e6b-187fcbb6bbd9@s50g2000hsb..com>
>> > m1ss_wh1te <m1ss_wh1te.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On May 13, 10:10 am, John B <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
>> > > > On 13 May, 09:13, m1ss_wh1te <m1ss_wh....uk> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Wembley is a damn silly place to have a national stadium anyway. I
>> > > > > would have thought somewhere nearer the middle of the population
>> > > > > density would have been far more sensible.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Ah! I've just noticed the fatal flaw in my thinking.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wembley isn't going to be all that far away from the middle of the
>> > > > population density, is it?
>> > > >
>> > > How silly of me not to have said "the middle of the UK's population
>> > > density" and to have forgotten that the World ends just north of
>> > > Watford.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Where do you think the middle of the UK's population density is? clue:
>> > it's not going to be very far north of Wembley.
>>
>> It's a bit of a weird expression - are you meaning the point at which the
>> sum of the distances of the journeys to it for everyone in the UK is
>> minimised?
>>
>> If so, I'd reckon it *is* a good deal north of Wembley. At least as far as
>> MK, perhaps even further.
>
>Apologies, I meant England, not UK. Wembley is the English national football
>stadium, not the UK's. That pushes the centre of gravity back south.
>
The stadium is still in a cr4p position even in local terms. When they
knocked down the old one they should have rebuilt it closer to
national rather than local transport links such as down at Brent Park
with Neasden station enlarged rather than (or maybe as well as?)
Wembley Park.

Graeme Wall wrote:
>
> Where do you think the middle of the UK's population density is?
> clue: it's not going to be very far north of Wembley.

I concur. There are some pretty dense members of the population in this part
of the world. ;-)

On May 13, 6:56 am, "Graham Harrison"
<edward.harris...@remove.> wrote:
> I think what Barry is saying is
> that many fans, having arrived at Paddington or Waterloo, may make for
> Marylebone and come into conflict with the passengers arriving from
> Birmingham who cannot use the west coast.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What I think Barry is saying is that Chiltern have to strengthen their
trains by adding stock to those trains to / from the West Midlands in
order to carry those escapees deom the West Coast. Chiltern are unable
to do this & run the Wembley shuttles as they don't have enough stock.

What IS happening is that Chiltern are hiring in 165s from FGW for
this day & the others where there are events on at the stadium this
summer.