Quake hits east mids

On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>
> mike

HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
the UK?

On Feb 27, 9:34 am, "David Thornhill" <s...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Charlie Hulme" <i...@davenportstation.org.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:wz9xj.6506$Z_2.3928@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>
> > flybywire wrote:
> >> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>
> > And the first thing you thought was 'Hey, must post this to uk.railway!'
>
> > ;-)
>
> LOL.!
>
> When I was standing in back garden at 01:05 trying to see if I still had a
> roof on the house, I should have posed question here first to save me
> rushing out into cold.
>
> I'm not far from EMA and I thought a plane had come down very close to
> house.
>
> David

I'm surprised the whole UK railway system is not shut down while
police conduct a fingertip search for evidence, in case anyone is to
be prosecuted for causing the earthquake. :-)

Neill

In message <wz9xj.6506$Z_2.3928@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, at 08:54:52 on
Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Charlie Hulme <info@davenportstation.org.uk> remarked:
>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>
>And the first thing you thought was 'Hey, must post this to
>uk.railway!'

I was driving my car up the A46, for precisely the reason that I would
have missed the last train at Luton Airport Parkway by two minutes (so I
planned to take the car instead).

Timetable: Plane arrived 22.35 (scheduled for 22.40, so not bad).
Got to Immigration queue 22.40
Left Immigration queue at 23.15 (outrageously chaotic)
Boarded bus to station 23.20
Bus departed 23.27
Last train leaves 23.31
Bus arrived at station 23.32

Got my car from the station carpark (£9.20 for two days, saving more
than twenty quid on the mid-stay at the airport) and drove home. Didn't
notice the earthquake at all.

Got home at about 01.15
ps Last train arrives Nottingham 02.12 (plus 10 minute taxi)
--
Roland Perry

flybywire wrote:
> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed

I certainly felt it in Cambridge. I had come back from a dinner in
London and was perturbed to arrive at the Cross to find the 23.06
advertised as "Cambridge" when it gets overtaken by the 23.15 Ely train.
I posted on uk.railway recently (don't recall the thread) that they
advertised such trains as "Foxton" for just this reason, but all the
boards were saying Cambridge.

Robin

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:58:03 -0800 (PST), Paul Weaver
<usenet@isorox.co.uk> wrote:

>On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>>
>> mike
>
>HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
>distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
>are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
>the UK?
>
Falling chimneys are the usual worst effects.

"Paul Weaver" <usenet@isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
news:601196a5-d95d-40f9-9f87-c477ab4d1edf@h11g2000prf..com...
> On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>>
>> mike
>
> HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
> distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
> are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
> the UK?

Ballasted track should be pretty safe from a quake surely? I would imagine
the biggest risk area is ancient brickwork at bridges, viaducts, tunnels
etc...

Paul

Sue McNaughton wrote:
> In article <UdudnbqyMtImPljanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com>, Paul Scott
> <notvalidpmscott@> writes
>>
>> "Paul Weaver" <usenet@isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:601196a5-d95d-40f9-9f87-c477ab4d1edf@h11g2000prf..com...
>>> On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
>>>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>
>>> HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
>>> distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
>>> are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
>>> the UK?
>>
>> Ballasted track should be pretty safe from a quake surely? I would
>> imagine
>> the biggest risk area is ancient brickwork at bridges, viaducts, tunnels
>> etc...
>>
> It is remarkable how flexible masonry can be. For example, visit
> Chichester Cathedral bell tower on practice night (Wednesday, 7.30-9.00)
> and feel this stone-and-rubble structure sway like a ship at sea when
> the bells get going. It's been doing it for over 500 years.

I suspect the problem with earthquakes and masonry structures is not one
with the structure per se, but with the mobility of what it's resting
on, and the tendency for said foundation not to return to its initial
condition.

Robin

"Sue McNaughton" <Sue@wandleys.> wrote in message
news:0YsNqOZ6HbxHJwgz@wandleys....
> In article <UdudnbqyMtImPljanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com>, Paul Scott
> <notvalidpmscott@> writes
>>
>>"Paul Weaver" <usenet@isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:601196a5-d95d-40f9-9f87-c477ab4d1edf@h11g2000prf..com...
>>> On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
>>>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>
>>> HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
>>> distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
>>> are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
>>> the UK?
>>
>>Ballasted track should be pretty safe from a quake surely? I would imagine
>>the biggest risk area is ancient brickwork at bridges, viaducts, tunnels
>>etc...
>>
> It is remarkable how flexible masonry can be. For example, visit
> Chichester Cathedral bell tower on practice night (Wednesday, 7.30-9.00)
> and feel this stone-and-rubble structure sway like a ship at sea when the
> bells get going. It's been doing it for over 500 years.

I suspect the brickwork standards of many early railway structures are very
similar to the fallen chimney stacks all over the place, rather than a
cathedral bell tower, though IANAB (Brickie)...

Paul

In article <n8udnc6L65XoIljanZ2dnUVZ8gOdnZ2d@bt.com>, Paul Scott
<notvalidpmscott@> scribeth thus
>
>"Sue McNaughton" <Sue@wandleys.> wrote in message
>news:0YsNqOZ6HbxHJwgz@wandleys....
>> In article <UdudnbqyMtImPljanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com>, Paul Scott
>> <notvalidpmscott@> writes
>>>
>>>"Paul Weaver" <usenet@isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:601196a5-d95d-40f9-9f87-c477ab4d1edf@h11g2000prf..com...
>>>> On Feb 27, 1:09 am, "flybywire" <ram...@ny.com> wrote:
>>>>> no scale yet announced lasted 13 secs and nearly chucked me out of bed
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> HIt LBZ at 00:57. Heard a train (being on topic and all) in the
>>>> distance about 01:10 -- how bad doesa quake have to be before trains
>>>> are stopped to check for rail buckling? Or would that never happen in
>>>> the UK?
>>>
>>>Ballasted track should be pretty safe from a quake surely? I would imagine
>>>the biggest risk area is ancient brickwork at bridges, viaducts, tunnels
>>>etc...
>>>
>> It is remarkable how flexible masonry can be. For example, visit
>> Chichester Cathedral bell tower on practice night (Wednesday, 7.30-9.00)
>> and feel this stone-and-rubble structure sway like a ship at sea when the
>> bells get going. It's been doing it for over 500 years.
>
>I suspect the brickwork standards of many early railway structures are very
>similar to the fallen chimney stacks all over the place, rather than a
>cathedral bell tower, though IANAB (Brickie)...
>

A lot of fallen stacks are simply due to no maintenance over the
years!..

--
Tony Sayer

Paul Scott wrote:

>
>"Sue McNaughton" <Sue@wandleys.> wrote in message
>news:0YsNqOZ6HbxHJwgz@wandleys....

>> It is remarkable how flexible masonry can be. For example, visit
>> Chichester Cathedral bell tower on practice night (Wednesday, 7.30-9.00)
>> and feel this stone-and-rubble structure sway like a ship at sea when the
>> bells get going. It's been doing it for over 500 years.
>
>I suspect the brickwork standards of many early railway structures are very
>similar to the fallen chimney stacks all over the place, rather than a
>cathedral bell tower, though IANAB (Brickie)...
>
A couple of years ago I was watching the demolition of Derby
Carriage Works C Shop.

The gable ends were brickwork about 500 mm thick and 15 m high,
and the demolition excavator had to work very gingerly to bring
it down piecemeal in the right place. Simply nudging near the
apex caused the entire wall to flex to and fro quite alarmingly.
Perhaps it was largely held in place by gravity.

Chris