Victa, HRT, Blue Pullman, Cotswold Rail, Heartland Rail

In message <63v5s252irrllgt2520llqfarhg6fc3eda@>, at 09:00:01 on
Fri, 2 Feb 2007, John F Kappler <john@pceffect.co.uk> remarked:
>Yesterday I saw the two statements below regarding the Blue Pullman
>train and its operation. As the statementsare long, forgive for asking
>the questions arising up front:
>
>a) If Cotswold Rail haven't got the whole train, how much have they
>got and what is left?

Maybe all but the "brake vehicle 9513" (see below)?

>b) Does this mean HRT (under the Victa banner) will not be sheduling
>future BP tours?

Perhaps they could lease it back for tours that they marketed.

[snip]

>With the replacement from the set of brake vehicle number 9513 by a
>more modern example the train will, in the very short future, see the
>introduction of full disabled facilities.
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:00:01 +0000, John F Kappler
<john@pceffect.co.uk> wrote:

>Yesterday I saw the two statements below regarding the Blue Pullman
>train and its operation. As the statementsare long, forgive for asking
>the questions arising up front:
>
>a) If Cotswold Rail haven't got the whole train, how much have they
>got and what is left?

Interesting stuff.

I was told a few weeks ago by someone at Victa Westrail that a short
Blue Pullman Set will work over the LT&S out of Fenchurch Street on
the evening of 20th February as a private charter.

What's the date on the statement you posted?


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

"Andy Kirkham" <a.kirkham@LTScotland.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1170414397.918729.133580@h3g2000cwc. ...
> Whoever chose the name "Victa" evidently didn't study Latin at school.
>>From what I recall it means "Defeated".
>
> Andy
>
Derived from 'Invicta', the county motto of Kent, whence the company
originated.
Brian

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:41:10 +0000, John F Kappler
<john@pceffect.co.uk> wrote:

>End of the Line website is now saying that tomorrow's Victa HRT Blue
>Pullman will be operated by Riviera Trains' blue(?) stock.
>
>The thick plottens ....


The balkanisation of these small, independent operators seems only to
guarantee an ever-larger number of ever-smaller companies using
clapped out rolling stock to run a small number of special trains,
then running out of cash and being taken over or going out of
business.

It is a bit like watching double glazing companies going bust then
reappearing under a slightly different name, with the same premises,
same personnel and the same business practices, having left a lot of
suppliers and subcontractors in the lurch.

Hopefully, one day, something stable and viable will emerge from this
appalling mess.

On Feb 2, 12:10 pm, "BH Williams" <bhwilli...@letra.co.uk> wrote:
> "Andy Kirkham" <a.kirk...@LTScotland.org.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1170414397.918729.133580@h3g2000cwc. ...> Whoever chose the name "Victa" evidently didn't study Latin at school.
> >>From what I recall it means "Defeated".
>
> > Andy
>
> Derived from 'Invicta', the county motto of Kent, whence the company
> originated.
> Brian


Yes, but presumably "invicta" is the opposite of "victa". If the Kent
motto had been "Undefeated", I doubt whether they would have called
themselves "Defeated Rail".