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Old 26th January 2007, 07:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dan Gravell wrote:

> This, of course, is the charge often levied against road building. That
> said, in a sense I cannot see why it would not be the case where you add
> capacity to any transport system, it will end up being used more
> assuming the means to use it (economic growth) allows it.


Yes, it's reasonable to assume that an improvement in any transport
system will lead to increased use, both from traffic abstracted from
other modes and from existing users travelling more often/further.

Of course, the difference between rail and road is that moving road
users onto rail is generally (outside of the DfT and uk.tr***port)
considered to be a Good Thing, and the reverse a Bad Thing.

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Old 28th January 2007, 05:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jerry A wrote:

> Just out of interest, is there anyone out there who thinks overcrowding
> is wonderful?


I think most of the financial minds behind the railways like it :)

In the rush hour, I really don't mind the train being a bit crowded.
For journeys of up to half an hour, if you have to stand, it's not as
comfortable as sitting but it's no real hardship. As long as you have
enough space to physically move - I'm not talking about overcrowding
to FGW or Tube standards, but when there are plenty of people
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Old 28th January 2007, 12:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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>
> This, of course, is the charge often levied against road building. That
> said, in a sense I cannot see why it would not be the case where you add
> capacity to any transport system, it will end up being used more
> assuming the means to use it (economic growth) allows it.
>
> So are there any differences between guided/railed transportation and
> unguided in this regard?
>


As a general rule once a road fills up there's not much you can do to
increase capacity. In fact, the more congested roads are the ones that
end up having more traffic control measures applied to them such as
traffic lights, roundabouts and the dreaded bus lane all of which help
on capacity but not on journey time.

Railways can be much better at accommodating traffic growth, longer
trains, higher frequency are all options available.

If demand gets really high then double deck trains can work wonders.

For example, the French TGV has been highly successful but has yet to
become a victim of its own success thanks to things like double deck
TGVs.

It's amazing just how much traffic can be pushed down two tracks if
you really try.

 
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