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In message <1158675874.394577.284480@b28g2000cwb. .com>, at
07:24:34 on Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Grumpy Old Man
<onemoregrumpyoldman@m> remarked:
>This is the first fully liveried dedicated freight train to go into
>operation in the UK.

Claims like that are always a hostage to fortune. Didn't Royal Mail have
some fully liveried EMUs?

Presumably they are saying that *both* the containers and the loco are
liveried to match each other (liveried freight wagons are as old as the
hills). Is it a Stobart or a Tesco livery?
--
Roland Perry

In message <5RkQg.35690$G72.28851@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, at 00:16:01 on
Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Ken Ward <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> remarked:
>> ..and the LMS had dedicated Palethorpes (sausages) LWB vans.
>
>Running along the North Wales Coast in 1960 'ish.

Was the loco also liveried, though? Perhaps that's one of the things
that Stobart are claiming (despite their loco not, in fact, being
liveried to match the wagons in the photo someone posted).
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ec8q5fBSojEFFANY@perry.co.uk...
> In message <5RkQg.35690$G72.28851@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, at 00:16:01 on
> Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Ken Ward <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> remarked:
>>> ..and the LMS had dedicated Palethorpes (sausages) LWB vans.
>>
>>Running along the North Wales Coast in 1960 'ish.
>
> Was the loco also liveried, though? Perhaps that's one of the things that
> Stobart are claiming (despite their loco not, in fact, being liveried to
> match the wagons in the photo someone posted).

No, but it was possible to cook the "load" on the shovel!

--
Ken Ward

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In message <LgzQg.7558$aP3.6563@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Bigguy
<jw001t8336@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Railway operations didn't seem to change much from 1918 to 1960 - same
>trains on same routes although the locos and rolling stock probably changed
>once in that period. Great days but nothing like as quick, frequent or clean
>as they are these days - apart from a very few named trains.
As in steam days, most freights were unfitted, or only a fitted head and
had wagons with a short wheelbase they were limited to 40mph which does
make it difficult to path through much faster passenger trains.
--
Clive.