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    TheOneKEA
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    Having done some research on standard-gauge turntables accessible from
    Network Rail I came across a mention that Marylebone possessed a
    turntable pit right up until 2002, with the turntable having been
    removed and transplanted to Fort William in a rather dramatic and
    expensive fashion.

    Where was the turntable pit, though? I can't see where it would have
    been located in the current railway formation. Personally I think it's
    a bit of a shame that it was lost, as out of all the London termini
    that could have housed a turntable, Marylebone seemed to be the most
    deserving IMVHO...

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    TheOneKEA
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    >
    > After the steam specials stopped I don't think it was used at all.
    > When it was removed it was found to need considerable refurbishment; I
    > think quite a bit of the structure was replaced, and when it was
    > installed at Fort William there was some reason why it wasn't being
    > used; I can't remember the details now.


    AFAIK the reason why it is not in use at Fort William has not been
    publicly aired, and is not likely to be either from what little has
    been made available on the subject.

    My main interest in this turntable stems mostly from the announcment
    that a turntable is to be built at Stratford, as part of a new railway
    museum, and made accessible from NR, thus supplementing the turntable
    at Tyseley and allowing the loco allocated to the Shakespeare Express
    to run in the proper direction both ways.

    If the turntable pit at Marylebone is still usable, then perhaps one
    day a turntable can be reinstalled. Not only would it be of historic
    value (since it is listed, as someone noted), but the Shakespeare
    Express could run from Marylebone again!

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    TheOneKEA
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    >
    > It was immediately north of the Rossmore Road bridge, now buried beneath
    > tons of soil since the Evergreen II project commenced.


    Do you know if it will stay buried after Evergreen II is finished?

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    Jack Taylor
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    > RPM wrote:
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    >> It was immediately north of the Rossmore Road bridge, now buried
    >> beneath tons of soil since the Evergreen II project commenced.

    >
    > Do you know if it will stay buried after Evergreen II is finished?


    The chances are that the retaining walls will have suffered from so much
    water ingress and frost damage over the years that it would be pretty much
    useless anyway. Then again, without the turntable itself it isn't of much
    use and digging and walling a new pit would not be the biggest part of the
    job if a new table was required (several preserved railways have built their
    own pits to house newly acquired turntables).

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    TheOneKEA
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    > TheOneKEA wrote:
    > > RPM wrote:
    > >>
    > >> It was immediately north of the Rossmore Road bridge, now buried
    > >> beneath tons of soil since the Evergreen II project commenced.

    > >
    > > Do you know if it will stay buried after Evergreen II is finished?

    >
    > The chances are that the retaining walls will have suffered from so much
    > water ingress and frost damage over the years that it would be pretty much
    > useless anyway.


    I'm inclined to agree - the pictures of it before it was covered show
    it to be a large swamp, full of algae and reeds and bugs.

    > Then again, without the turntable itself it isn't of much use and digging
    > and walling a new pit would not be the biggest part of the job if a new
    > table was required (several preserved railways have built their own
    > pits to house newly acquired turntables).


    Indeed. I doubt there would be sufficient space left anywhere at
    Marylebone except the current site to house a turntable of a decent
    size. You'd probably have to excavate the existing pit and re-wall it
    if you wanted to restore it.

    Still, if it really is a listed building, this may end up happening
    anyway...

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