Old photo

It would appear that the train is coming into Victoria station on the
SECR side and is passing under Ebury Bridge. The Airways Building was
the large building opposite Victoria Coach Station which is now the
home of the National Audit Office in Buckingham Palace Road.

Cracking shot!

Bernie

Five Cats wrote:


>
> Thanks for the very full information - I had never though of looking at
> the power station from the north when trying to identify the location!
> I still can't see the 3rd rail on the tracks the train is on, though!
>
> BTW any suggestions as to what it is to be double-headed? Also what the
> pale object on the smoke-box door of the leading engine might be?
>>

I believe many boat trains were double-headed to allow some safety margin if
one loco had a problem (certainly this was the case in the early 50's).
Also at the time the largest Locos allowed in the Eastern Section were the
Arthurs so many important trains were still run by L1s and such like which
would have needed double-heading with something heavy like the Night Ferry.

The trains looks like it was heading for Platform 1 (or something close) and
that is where the boat trains ran to/from.

Boat trains also tended to have a fairly ornate headboard.

4973 <4973@frequentous.co.uk> wrote in message news:<xO6dnR617vRro03d4p2dnA@eclipse.net.uk>...

> Also at the time the largest Locos allowed in the Eastern Section were the
> Arthurs so many important trains were still run by L1s and such like which
> would have needed double-heading with something heavy like the Night Ferry.

I thought Nelsons were permitted, the Dover & Folkestone boat trains
being some of the services Maunsell had in mind when they were
designed; certain aspects of the design were certainly intended to
keep weight problems & hammer-blow to a minimum on the Eastern
Section, hence the special 135-degree crank setting. It's also because
of these constraints that a 4-6-0 design was selected, rather than a
Pacific.

David E. Belcher

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:07:14 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
<Terry.Harper@> wrote:

[snip]

>> ...They'd be just around the block from the coach station.
>> Parked out of the way, waiting their turn? Was there a coach station
>> near Victoria in 1939?
>
>There was Victoria Coach Station, and also the Green Line services had an
>interchange on Ebury Bridge, as I recall. With the then limited capacity of
>the coach station, if a coach had a longish lay-over, they would have to
>move out until it was time to go onto their stand for departure. A site on
>the western side of Battersea Bridge approach (north of the river) used to
>be used some years ago.

Given their proximity to Ebury Bridge, the two coaches could in fact
be Green Line awaiting their time to go to forward to pick up
passengers.

Were any pre-war Green Line T-types equipped with luggage space on the
roof?

Terry? :)

fido

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:19:43 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
<Terry.Harper@> wrote:

>"fido" <mbongo@ndongo.com> wrote in message
>news:q0e5d051snr3ceqabqeuustqhj866fkij7@.. .

>> Were any pre-war Green Line T-types equipped with luggage space on the
>> roof?
>
>I've had a look at the book on Weymann Coachbuilders, which illustrates a
>number of versions of the T-types for Green Line. None of them appear to
>have roof racks, but some did have boards along the roof edges with route
>details. Presumably the limited stop Green Line services did not carry much
>luggage, unlike the vehicles which would run into Victoria Coach Station.
>The Duple Coachwork book has a number of illustrations of typical vehicles
>used by Red and White, Black and White and other long-distance operators.

Thinking about it, it wouldn't be much fun for the driver if he had to
keep getting out of the cab to climb a ladder and stow luggage on the
roof if he was stopping every few miles between Aylesbury and
Westerham.

So, it's back to the long-distance coaches, then. I suppose it is rare
for contemporary photographs of coaches to be high-angle obliques!

fido