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Old 21st August 2003, 11:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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"Richard" <richard2002@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > I don't know exactly how big it is, but seeing a racing bike drive
> > through an S bend, with something like 90 degrees of roll rotation in
> > under a second it must be a fair old size.

>
> So assume 180 degrees/second squared, and 50kgm2 MoI - still only requires
> 50pi moment, which with a 50cm moment arm as assumed throughout is a 100N
> force. Inconsequential, and hence I ignored it.
>


just out of interest, do these calculations suffice to explain why a Formula
1 car is theoretically capable of driving on the ceiling of a tunnel, yet
they still prang them now and then. (not trying to make a point or anything)

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Old 23rd August 2003, 03:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In message <Dec0b.383$W%.351868@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>, Richard
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>You will note from the image in question that the bike/body CoM is
>clearly outside the base of contact. The only way in which he can stay
>on his bike is to be turning at sufficient speed (in angular and linear
>terms) to produce a 'centrifugal force' relative to the internal
>reference frame:

Shouldn't this really be "Centripetal force"?
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In message <bhtbg4$2sbq8$1@ID-109418.news.uni-berlin.de>, athomik
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>> The original question was about the fact that the picture *may* show a
>> dangerous undertaking maneuvre.
>>

>Make that an *over*taking maneuvre.
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No, he might just be right, and making a killing for some poor sod in a
not very nice job.
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