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Old 6th August 2003, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
Andrew Hillyard
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HI

This one doesn't sound very nice:

Time Reported 15.50
Company(s) Affected First Great Eastern
Route London Liverpool Street - Wickford - Althorne - Southminster
Description Power supply to trains damaged - possible vandalism.
Railway closed Wickford - Southminster
Description Power supply to trains - problems at Stratford and Maryland
Reduced number of tracks available. Expect many delays / alterations
delays up to 60+ minutes. Buses replace trains
Update:
18.30 Due to passengers being taken ill due to heat problems on trapped
services, all First Great Eastern and Anglia services from London are
currently suspended until further notice.

In this situation what would happen, would people be allowed to get off/open
the doors etc?

Andrew


 
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Old 6th August 2003, 06:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Andrew Hillyard" <andrew @ hillyard 22 . freeserve . co . uk> wrote in
message news:bgrglg$u1h$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
<snip>
> 18.30 Due to passengers being taken ill due to heat problems on trapped
> services, all First Great Eastern and Anglia services from London are
> currently suspended until further notice.
>
> In this situation what would happen, would people be allowed to get

off/open
> the doors etc?
>


I was delayed 2 hours this evening on FGE travelling from Liverpool Street
to Wickford.
Fortunately, I had the good sense to go to the front of the train where
seating was plentiful. I could only feel sorry for those that prefered to
pack themselves into the first four carriages of a 12 carriage train. It
must have been awful!!

Victor


 
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Old 6th August 2003, 07:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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One thing I have never understood is that why the TOC's don't put pressure
on the leasing companies to fix the aircon.

Of course, if I were cynical, I might think it's because they get a rebate,
or possibly the lease is priced in such a way to accomodate a certain level
of failure.

Which then started me thinking - is that why I've never noticed the TOC's
advertising aircon as a feature of their service (hence passengers could get
a refund if it wasn't working !)

Which /then/ started me thinking about the cost of providing the aircon - I
know what it does to the MPG in my car. So maybe the TOC's are slow to fix
it because it saves money on both the lease and fuel ?

(What is the MPG for a HST anyway :-)

Matt.




 
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Old 7th August 2003, 04:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote in message news:<3f317f0c.346207@news.freeserve.net>...
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 19:31:24 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Masson"
> <Peter.Masson1@> wrote:


> I'm sure I read somewhere that Mk4 sets were fitted with chains for
> putting across the doorways in just this situation. It'd have been
> more sensible to have a few opening windows with carriage-key locks -
> though this may mean the units are not fully pressure-sealed, and on a
> day like today they'd have made as good as no difference anyway as
> there's been no breeze.


I was on a 165 from Aylesbury a few months ago, it musthave been a
refurbishment try-out, because a few of the opening windows had been
fitted with locks, and the rest removed, and replaced by a single
large shet of glass. You could still see in the frame where the
opening section had been. The SWT units from Waterloo to Exeter also
have only a few openable windows. Why should the number of windows
which can be opened for emergency ventilation in an air conditioned
vehicle be any less than the normally openable ones in a non air
conditioned vehicle?

I seem to remember that the Thames units (166?) have about as many
windows which can be opened as a 165.
 
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Old 10th August 2003, 07:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Andrew Hillyard wrote:
>
> HI
>
> This one doesn't sound very nice:
>
> Time Reported 15.50
> Company(s) Affected First Great Eastern
> Route London Liverpool Street - Wickford - Althorne - Southminster
> Description Power supply to trains damaged - possible vandalism.
> Railway closed Wickford - Southminster
> Description Power supply to trains - problems at Stratford and Maryland
> Reduced number of tracks available. Expect many delays / alterations
> delays up to 60+ minutes. Buses replace trains
> Update:
> 18.30 Due to passengers being taken ill due to heat problems on trapped
> services, all First Great Eastern and Anglia services from London are
> currently suspended until further notice.
>
> In this situation what would happen, would people be allowed to get off/open
> the doors etc?
>
> Andrew


I wonder why Tim Fenton hasn't rushed in to say that air con is a
wonderful thing?
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Henry Law
 
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