Channel tunnel loadin gauge

[boltar2003]

Anyone know the details of the loading gauge of the channel tunnel
itself and how it compares to UIC and north american gauges? I can't
find any specifics anywhere, just one comment that its the largest in
the world but I'd have thought the US double stack gauge would have
given it a run for its money.

B2003

[Lüko Willms]

Am Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:49:50 UTC, schrieb boltar2003**********.uk auf
uk.railway :

> Anyone know the details of the loading gauge of the channel tunnel
> itself and how it compares to UIC and north american gauges?

UIC loading gauge GC, the largest one. To be found in Eurotunnel's
"Network Statement".

As to comparisons, there was a link given recently in this newsgroup
in the thread "Freight Gauges" started February 2.

Cheers,
L.W.

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[boltar2003]

On Feb 24, 7:57*am, "Lüko Willms" <l.wil...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:49:50 UTC, *schrieb boltar2...**********.uk *auf
> uk.railway :
>
> > Anyone know the details of the loading gauge of the channel tunnel
> > itself and how it compares to UIC and north american gauges?
>
> * UIC loading gauge GC, the largest one. To be found in Eurotunnel's
> "Network Statement".

I know that the CTRL is a mix of UIC C and B but I thought the tunnel
itself was even larger. I don't think the shuttle trains would fit on
the CTRL or would they?

B2003

[TheOneKEA]

On Feb 24, 7:52 am, "Lüko Willms" <l.wil...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> Actually not, the CTRL aka HS1 is UIC GC, only the spur thru the
> station Ashford International, which is not part of HS1 conforms only
> to B+.

Are you sure? I have seen posts in uk.railway that state that the CTRL
is only built to UIC C gauge between the Channel Tunnel and the
junction to Temple Mills Depot, and is built to UIC B+ gauge beyond
there into St. Pancras International. I haven't seen any references
suggesting that it is built to UIC GC throughout.

[Roland Perry]

In message
<czd2LKcn8EGd-pn2-XQ5V3D2uW5tG@lueko.willms.dialin.t-online.de>, at
08:15:33 on Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lüko Willms <l.willms@domain.invalid>
quoted as follows:

>In addition immediately adjacent to the International Station and
>partly underneath it

Strangely put; there isn't any part of the SPILL station either at the
same level, or above, the International Station.

>, is a NRIL operated station serving the line between Farringdon and
>Kentish Town, which is also part of the NRIL Network.

--
Roland Perry

[Lüko Willms]

Am Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:06:20 UTC, schrieb Roland Perry
<roland@perry.co.uk> auf uk.railway :

> 08:15:33 on Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lko Willms <l.willms@domain.invalid>
> quoted as follows:
>
> >In addition immediately adjacent to the International Station and
> >partly underneath it
>
> Strangely put; there isn't any part of the SPILL station either at the
> same level, or above, the International Station.
>
> >, is a NRIL operated station serving the line between Farringdon and
> >Kentish Town, which is also part of the NRIL Network.

I think this refers to the Thameslink station.

The description of St. Pancras station reads now as this:

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St Pancras International Station

St Pancras International Station is located in the North West fringe
of central London and has thirteen platforms. Four platforms (nos. 1
to 4 inclusive) are for use by domestic services to major towns and
cities towards Sheffield. Six platforms (nos. 5 to 10 inclusive) are
for use by international services and three platforms (nos. 11 to 13
inclusive) are for use by high speed domestic services to and from
Ebbsfleet and North Kent via the NRIL Network, and Ashford and East
Kent via the NRIL Network.

Platform Lengths
Platform 1 nominal length 258m
Platforms 2- 4 nominal length 264m
Platforms 5 - 10 nominal length 410m
Platforms 11 - 13 nominal length 294m

There is an area within the station for international arrivals and
departures, two sets of public toilets, large public concourse areas
on the ground floor and at platform level, approximately 60 retail
units, arrival and departure passenger information screens, direct
access to the NRIL low - level station for services to Brighton and
Bedford, a public car parking facility and direct access to London
Underground. There are concourses and platforms for East Midlands
Train Limited ("EMT") services, which operate on the NRIL Network, but
the station facilities for these, are part of the HS1 Network.

Due to weight limitations built into the design of the station,
freight traffic will not be permitted into St Pancras International
Station, unless permitted under special instructions and arrangements.
Please also refer to section 3.3.3.4 for further details.

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Cheers,
L.W.

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[Roland Perry]

In message
<czd2LKcn8EGd-pn2-7d8PflLo7l3S@lueko.willms.dialin.t-online.de>, at
11:35:48 on Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lüko Willms <l.willms@domain.invalid>
remarked:
>Am Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:06:20 UTC, schrieb Roland Perry
><roland@perry.co.uk> auf uk.railway :
>
>> 08:15:33 on Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lko Willms <l.willms@domain.invalid>
>> quoted as follows:
>>
>> >In addition immediately adjacent to the International Station and
>> >partly underneath it
>>
>> Strangely put; there isn't any part of the SPILL station either at the
>> same level, or above, the International Station.
>>
>> >, is a NRIL operated station serving the line between Farringdon and
>> >Kentish Town, which is also part of the NRIL Network.
>
> I think this refers to the Thameslink station.

Of course, or known as SPILL (St Pancras International Low Level).

--
Roland Perry