Appealing at a late date?

[Jeff]

>
> It would have made no sense to appeal at any time, never mind at this
> late date.
>
> You would have had no chance at all, regardless of what any other
> cameras may have shown, because the offence isn't traveling along the
> bus lane, but is entering it.
>

That is not so, there are allowable grounds for entering a bus lane. The
normal criterion is no more than 15m when doing allowable manoeuvres
such as undertaking a car turning right, or avoiding debris etc.

Jeff

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Round here there are plenty of roads with bus lanes where if say a vehicle
is turning right you either wait for that or use the bus lane just to pass
that vehicle. Which is what most seem to do. If I were fined for doing
this I'd likely fight it. Different matter actually driving along an
active lane. But then in London, most drive down the middle of the road
anyway - regardless of bus lanes active or not. Even buses and taxis.

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[Jeff]

On 08/07/2012 11:30, Chris Whelan wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:59:15 +0100, Jeff wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>> That is not so, there are allowable grounds for entering a bus lane. The
>> normal criterion is no more than 15m when doing allowable manoeuvres
>> such as undertaking a car turning right, or avoiding debris etc.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Do you have a reference for that please?
>
> Chris
>

Try this one, they quote 20m

<http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=22048&p=0>

Jeff

[Duncan Wood]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 12:43:18 +0100, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 11:56:08 +0100, Jeff wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> Try this one, they quote 20m
>>
>> <http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=22048&p=0>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Sorry, the link doesn't work for me.
>
> Chris
>

"Although this is not a valid legal reason to drive in the bus lane, any
such cases detected will be
treated on their own merits;
 to undertake a vehicle turning right (in this case ensure that the route
back out of the bus
lane is clear before undertaking);"

[Alex Heney]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:59:15 +0100, Jeff <jeff@jeff.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> It would have made no sense to appeal at any time, never mind at this
>> late date.
>>
>> You would have had no chance at all, regardless of what any other
>> cameras may have shown, because the offence isn't traveling along the
>> bus lane, but is entering it.
>>
>
>That is not so, there are allowable grounds for entering a bus lane. The
>normal criterion is no more than 15m when doing allowable manoeuvres
>such as undertaking a car turning right, or avoiding debris etc.
>

True, but you would need some evidence in the photo that one of those
things applied.
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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <s0qjv719ampljs72a4isria4p8qk9ojnbb@........>,
Alex Heney <me8@............> wrote:
> >That is not so, there are allowable grounds for entering a bus lane.
> >The normal criterion is no more than 15m when doing allowable
> >manoeuvres such as undertaking a car turning right, or avoiding debris
> >etc.
> >

> True, but you would need some evidence in the photo that one of those
> things applied.

Surely the other way round - the pics would have to prove you've travelled
the required distance in the lane? Otherwise you have an instant
irrefutable defence. The camera can't give verbal evidence. ;-)

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