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Old 27th September 2006, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default taking off and joining - who's priority?

Consider an airfield with no radio, and no flying allowed on the deadside.

This means that aircraft joining overhead fly to the downwind end of the
runway, then along the runway whilst descending to circuit height.

If an aircraft arrives at this position (ie, at join height overhead the
downwind end of runway) at the same time as another aircraft is lining up
to take-off, there's contention for circuit height somewhere around the
upwind end of the runway.

Assuming no other traffic in the air or on the ground, is it better for
the aircraft in the air to orbit (or circuit at join height) until the
departing aircraft's out of the way, or for the aircraft on the ground to
wait until the joining aircraft has descended to circuit height and turned
crosswind?

I can see arguments either way.

 
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Default taking off and joining - who's priority?

>>Consider an airfield with no radio, and no flying allowed on the
>>deadside.
>>
>>This means that aircraft joining overhead fly to the downwind end of the
>>runway, then along the runway whilst descending to circuit height.
>>
>>If an aircraft arrives at this position (ie, at join height overhead the
>>downwind end of runway) at the same time as another aircraft is lining
>>up to take-off, there's contention for circuit height somewhere around
>>the upwind end of the runway.


On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:54:24 +0000, Geo wrote:
> I don't see that it makes much difference if the dead side cannot be
> used. An overhead join involves a crosswind leg over the numbers at
> circuit height.


I think the significance of the "no deadside" is that it means the descent
from join to circuit height is in a straight line along the runway, and
much steeper than if it's in a longer curve on the deadside. It also means
that the runway (and probably the whole airfield) is out of sight
underneath the whole time, so he can't see what aircraft lining up is
doing.

OTOH the lining-up aircraft can see the joining one, so maybe it would be
prudent for him to wait until the joiner's at least turned off the runway
line.

 
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