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Old 13th December 2005, 02:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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In message <408go0F18uutiU1@>, at 19:03:44 on Tue, 13 Dec
2005, "tim (moved to sweden)" <tim_in_sweden2005.uk> remarked:
>>>OK so that's one of the pax, what about the other 50 per flight?

>>
>> Most of them seem to find something. Lots of clothes, probably.

>
>I know. So if they can't cut down on their packing properly
>it's their own fault when they get 'ripped' by the airline.


"Properly" isn't an entirely absolute concept when it comes to packing
clothes!
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Old 13th December 2005, 02:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In message <mnEnf.28053$7p5.6459@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, at 18:26:26 on
Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Marcus Fox
<please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to.com> remarked:
>Most common household bathroom weighing scales will weigh in the kilogram
>range. Which makes it easy to check your luggage and re-pack if necessary
>before you go. If bag is too big to go on scales, first just weigh a person,
>then weigh person holding bag and subtract the first weight from the second.
>Thought this was a common sense approach really.


Many of the horror stories are because people expect (eg) 25kg, then
turn up to discover that the airline's changed its rules and only allows
15kg.
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Old 13th December 2005, 02:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:czYU+2EhQynDFAeB@donald.internetpolicynews.co .uk...
> In message <mnEnf.28053$7p5.6459@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, at 18:26:26 on
> Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Marcus Fox
> <please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to.com> remarked:
> >Most common household bathroom weighing scales will weigh in the kilogram
> >range. Which makes it easy to check your luggage and re-pack if necessary
> >before you go. If bag is too big to go on scales, first just weigh a

person,
> >then weigh person holding bag and subtract the first weight from the

second.
> >Thought this was a common sense approach really.

>
> Many of the horror stories are because people expect (eg) 25kg, then
> turn up to discover that the airline's changed its rules and only allows
> 15kg.


Surely it says how much you can take in the terms and conditions at the time
of booking? Which cannot be subsequently changed by them, as you've entered
into a contract by paying your money.

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Old 14th December 2005, 03:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:26:26 GMT, "Marcus Fox"
<please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to.com> wrote:

>If bag is too big to go on scales, first just weigh a person,
>then weigh person holding bag and subtract the first weight from the second.
>Thought this was a common sense approach really.
>
>Marcus
>


A method I've used on more than one occasion for weighing dogs that
won't cooperate!
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Old 14th December 2005, 03:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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In message <sbkvp1t20md4jh29480646oggf6s9gdlui@>, at 09:07:21 on
Wed, 14 Dec 2005, AJC <ajc@wxs.nl> remarked:
>I would argue that if you are going to book direct, usually saving
>yourself some money, then you must expect more of your own input, in
>informing yourself of these matters by checking the terms and
>conditions, rules and regulations, before clicking on the final
>button. This in contrast to using a middle man, a travel agent, often
>at greater cost, but there you can expect them to earn their money by
>advising you of the terms and conditions. It is a choice between full
>service and self service.


I don't share your optimism over the benefits of advice from a travel
agent. I've never had a happy experience, but rather have to explain
fundamental things like "if there are no flights to JFK, why not try
Newark as it's just as close to Manhattan, no really, it is, trust me".

Currently I fly on three routes, operated *exclusively* from my local
airports by BMI Baby, Easyjet and Sky Europe (one for each of the three
destinations). Can you recommend a travel agent who will book these for
me, and advise on the T&C?

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In message <38ovp197gsajtunhn439c9qdk6a144ume4@>, at 10:25:09 on
Wed, 14 Dec 2005, AJC <ajc@wxs.nl> remarked:

>I would always check baggage allowance, and check-in formalities, and
>then just assume the worst for the rest of it.


I try to as well. But it's surprising how well hidden these details are
sometimes. For example, I still can't find a list of which airports have
BMI self-checkins.

>>Currently I fly on three routes, operated *exclusively* from my local
>>airports by BMI Baby, Easyjet and Sky Europe (one for each of the three
>>destinations). Can you recommend a travel agent who will book these for
>>me, and advise on the T&C?

>
>There is no god-given right that you should be able to fly from a
>particular airport to another particular airport,


Indeed, but it's something to take into account when people smugly say
"that's what you get flying a low cost carrier" when there is often no
realistic alternative.

I might well choose to fly STN-AMS on a "proper" airline, but none of
them bother flying the route any more. If I was starting at Cambridge
(as I used to) just the extra trip to Gatwick or Heathrow would add 4
hours to a 1 hour flight, and make getting the 6.30am departure a
non-starter.

Anyway, which travel agent will help me with the bookings and T&C for
those airlines? I'm willing to pay a small premium, perhaps a tenner a
leg.
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