KLM's FFP gone right downhill

"resenär" <youknow@howtofind.me> wrote in message
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>I flew 4 flights with KL in February only to find they never appeared on my
> Flying Dutchman statement.
>
> I left it about a month until after which time I would be able to claim
> the
> missing miles online. No, I couldn't, so I e-mailed them only to be told
> that cheaper fares no longer receive any miles at all? (Even BA still give
> 25% don't they?)
>
> Did I miss something or did they publicise this fact? Or at least tell us?
> I
> wasn't aware of it, and I certainly wasn't very happy that it took them
> several weeks to reply to my e-mail and let me know.
>
> Is this the AF merger or some other reason why KL is now just not as good
> as
> it used to be. Think I'll forget my FD card and stick with my *Alliance
> Silver.

I shouldn't worry about it. The miles seem to be worthless.

It costs me less to fly with Ryanair all charges added on, than
LH want in Tax (admittedly to/from more expensive airports)

tim


>
>
> --
> Regards
> Resenär
>
>

"tim (moved to sweden)" <tim_in_sweden2005.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "resenär" <youknow@howtofind.me> wrote in message
> news:HTmdnVCXZsdq5PffSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >I flew 4 flights with KL in February only to find they never appeared on
my
> > Flying Dutchman statement.
> >
> > I left it about a month until after which time I would be able to claim
> > the
> > missing miles online. No, I couldn't, so I e-mailed them only to be told
> > that cheaper fares no longer receive any miles at all? (Even BA still
give
> > 25% don't they?)
> >
> > Did I miss something or did they publicise this fact? Or at least tell
us?
> > I
> > wasn't aware of it, and I certainly wasn't very happy that it took them
> > several weeks to reply to my e-mail and let me know.
> >
> > Is this the AF merger or some other reason why KL is now just not as
good
> > as
> > it used to be. Think I'll forget my FD card and stick with my *Alliance
> > Silver.
>
> I shouldn't worry about it. The miles seem to be worthless.
>
> It costs me less to fly with Ryanair all charges added on, than
> LH want in Tax (admittedly to/from more expensive airports)
>
> tim

I like to pay for cheap fares and use miles to upgrade but might be time to
switch to the low-costs.

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Regards
Resenär

With many airlines (eg Lufthansa) you cannot upgrade an economy ticket
purchased in the lowest booking class, and upgrading other economy
tickets costs more miles (a lot more!) than upgrading a full economy
(Y) ticket.

I recently investigated using miles to pay for a flight within Europe.
For Lufthansa, the cash payment (tax and 'charges') would have been
more than two-thirds of the total cost of the flight and paying with
money rather than miles. With KLM, the tax and charges would actually
have been MORE than the total cost of the flight (fare plus tax, etc.).

In sum, there seem to be very little point in collecting miles with
these carriers. Perhaps the only benefit is that if you acquire
'status' then you gain lounge access and a slightly improved chance of
operational upgrades. But it hardly seems worth the bother.