Guilty

In message <buojum$iul1g$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>, Miss L. Toe
<missltoemissltoe@m> writes
>Burrows pleaded guilty to one count of possession of a ball bearing-firing
>handgun having the appearance of a firearm, without lawful authority or
>reasonable excuse

Some new meaning of the words "without reasonable excuse", then? Sounds
to me like he explained what his excuse was.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1VCSsUNmw9DAFAF7@perry.co.uk...
> In message <buojum$iul1g$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>, Miss L. Toe
> <missltoemissltoe@m> writes
> >Burrows pleaded guilty to one count of possession of a ball
bearing-firing
> >handgun having the appearance of a firearm, without lawful authority or
> >reasonable excuse
>
> Some new meaning of the words "without reasonable excuse", then? Sounds
> to me like he explained what his excuse was.

But was it reasonable ?

It made me remember an incident when I went through Gatwick with a medium
sized penknife in my handluggage (I had honestly forgotten it was there),
they gave me a mild telling off and let me through with it - Long before
11/9/2001.

In message <buon54$jelet$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>, Miss L. Toe
<missltoemissltoe@m> writes
>>Sounds
>> to me like he explained what his excuse was.
>
>But was it reasonable ?

Plausible, at least.
--
Roland Perry

In article <buon54$jelet$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Miss L. Toe <missltoemissltoe@m> wrote:
>
>"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1VCSsUNmw9DAFAF7@perry.co.uk...
>> In message <buojum$iul1g$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>, Miss L. Toe
>> <missltoemissltoe@m> writes
>>
>> Some new meaning of the words "without reasonable excuse", then?
>> Sounds to me like he explained what his excuse was.
>
>But was it reasonable ?
>
>It made me remember an incident when I went through Gatwick with
>a medium sized penknife in my handluggage (I had honestly forgotten
>it was there), they gave me a mild telling off and let me through
>with it - Long before 11/9/2001.

Oddly enough, the same happened to me with a swiss army knife . . .
but at ATH last July!

Angela

In message <C-ycneWHybNGrY3dSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk>, resenär
<resenar@REMOVETHISmccoid2.karoo.co.uk> writes
>If he wasn't aware of what was in his bag, anyone could have put anything
>else in it without his knowledge.

I think that's true of almost everyone's bags. They will typically have
dark corners, recesses and pockets that no-one will check and re-check
every five minutes.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fvj4yQe+rDEAFA6n@perry.co.uk...
> In message <C-ycneWHybNGrY3dSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk>, resenär
> <resenar@REMOVETHISmccoid2.karoo.co.uk> writes
> >If he wasn't aware of what was in his bag, anyone could have put anything
> >else in it without his knowledge.
>
> I think that's true of almost everyone's bags. They will typically have
> dark corners, recesses and pockets that no-one will check and re-check
> every five minutes.
> --
> Roland Perry

That's true enough, but a vague awareness might be good, especially if the
guy owns eweapons etc.

Res

> I don't see the 'journalists' who claim to have taken banned items
> through security as 'tests', being taken to court. Why not? They have
> committed a crime too.
>

I agree 100%.

One would hope/expect that the secuirty services have there own testers who
try and get things through - they of course would be properly screened and
exempt from prosecution.

In article <dTVPb.8730$JL4.70147@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
Peter Cheeseman <mrcheese@chheesman.com> wrote:
>
>"Angela Gilham" <agilham@comlab.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:buoo6m$pud$1@news.ox.ac.uk...
>> In article <buon54$jelet$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>,
>> Miss L. Toe <missltoemissltoe@m> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:1VCSsUNmw9DAFAF7@perry.co.uk...
>> >> In message <buojum$iul1g$1@ID-201440.news.uni-berlin.de>, Miss L. Toe
>> >> <missltoemissltoe@m> writes
>> >>
>> >> Some new meaning of the words "without reasonable excuse", then?
>> >> Sounds to me like he explained what his excuse was.
>> >
>> >But was it reasonable ?
>> >
>> >It made me remember an incident when I went through Gatwick with
>> >a medium sized penknife in my handluggage (I had honestly forgotten
>> >it was there), they gave me a mild telling off and let me through
>> >with it - Long before 11/9/2001.
>>
>> Oddly enough, the same happened to me with a swiss army knife . . .
>> but at ATH last July!
>
>And to me too at FRA last year. Had packed in a rush and the knife
>had ended up in my carry-on by accident. Had the fright of my life
>when the security guy pulled it out of the bag. Thought I'd be in
>trouble but he just threw it into the bin with hundreds of others
>and waved me on.
>
>Shame - it was a useful knife.

You misunderstand me. The swiss army knife in question is currently
in the cutlery drawer in the kitchen!

I think the fact that a hefty six foot three security supervisor
couldn't get the blade out because it was well stiffened up with
dust, sand and salt water meant they thought it was safe . . .
pity about the fact that it was in the same rucksack as enough
sun cream to create a small oil slick.

Angela