PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:50 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
<postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote:

[ Snip ]

> no, I do not have an ethical problem with
>using just part of a purchased service.

What Mr. Dissen meant to write is:

"I do not have an ethical problem with lying to obtain preferential
pricing when purchasing a service".

Malc.

Hatunen <hatuunen@cox.net> wrote in message news:<phq6nv852nva9vdhf7stgqhe9r62m5ekgu@>. ..
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:35:24 -0700, "Peter L"
> <peterl68@m> wrote:
>
> >I am quite sure no one can toss an earlier segment and still have later
> >segments honored. But I don't see any ethnical problem with tossing the
> >last segment of a ticket.
>
> Only if one is an ethnic.
>
> (I couldn't resist)
>
> I feel pretty much the same but I remain aware that it is a
> violation of the contract and therefore bears a taint of lack of
> ethics.


"violating" contracts is not unethical. It ain't illegal either.
There are consequences, and it isn't always a really good idea, but
businesses do it all the time, and frequently have the terms and
conditions of doing so written right into the contracts themselves.
What is "unethical" about this is, and is in business as well,
is entering into the contract with the intention of violating it.
I think the usual expression is "good faith effort". I think,
IIRC, that entering a contract with no intent of executing a "good
faith effort" to comply with it _IS_ illegal.

Hatunen <hatuunen@cox.net> wrote in message news:<55vgnvkp2u62n3roe6qm1sdfmtejei9p0m@>. ..
> On 29 Sep 2003 05:18:54 -0700, oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com (me)
> wrote:
[snip]
> >There are consequences, and it isn't always a really good idea, but
> >businesses do it all the time, and frequently have the terms and
> >conditions of doing so written right into the contracts themselves.
>
> Um. If the terms and conditions for violating the contract are
> written into the contract, then it isn't a violation at all to
> exercise them.
[snip]

This is dangerous because it is about predominately state law,
which varies widely, not to mention contract law isn't anywhere
uniform internationally. However, just because issues of contract
violation are written into a contract doesn't change the fact
that it can be violated. Violating a contract allows the offended
party to pursue several lines of redress. Indicating which ones
will be pursued, and agreeing to them in advance, can help avoid
the courts involvement, but the legal rights of the offended are
still intact.