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26th September 2007, 03:27 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
take.
Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
jumps than a traditional sprinter. | |
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26th September 2007, 09:40 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. In article <1190791679.808756.187140@w3g2000hsg.. com>, muzician21m wrote:
> >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
> speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
> series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
> point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
> take.
>
> Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
> distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
> distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
> to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
> speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
> jumps than a traditional sprinter.
Yes, which is what the character did in the original book CYBORG, what,
40 years ago? Of course, TV producers don't READ, so that was the end
of that. The running was close to being the worst part of the new BW,
and that's saying some. | |
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26th September 2007, 10:45 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. TBRallamericanherom wrote:
> On Sep 26, 9:40 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>> In article <1190791679.808756.187...@w3g2000hsg.. com>,
>>
>> muzicia...m wrote:
>>> >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
>>> speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
>>> series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
>>> point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
>>> take.
>>> Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
>>> distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
>>> distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
>>> to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
>>> speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
>>> jumps than a traditional sprinter.
>> Yes, which is what the character did in the original book CYBORG, what,
>> 40 years ago? Of course, TV producers don't READ, so that was the end
>> of that. The running was close to being the worst part of the new BW,
>> and that's saying some.
>
> You must be the two watching that show. I guess ratings don't lie,
> there really were two viewers watching.
> And BTW, get a frikin' life.
>
Wow, harsh man. I think the new show plays here tonight and my wife and
I are planning to watch it. I wasn't a big fan of the first show, but
my wife is younger and Jamie was her hero. So, of course we're going to
watch it.
We may not have the life that you live TBR, but it still seems pretty
good to us.
Bob | |
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26th September 2007, 11:41 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. On Sep 26, 10:55 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@> wrote:
> Long strides would end up looking 'cartoonish' as well. After all, how much
> speed enhancement with long strides could you do before you ended up with
> something along the lines of that Incredible Hulk movie?
Think about it. In running, the winner is the one who covers the most
ground the fastest. With sprinters besides turnover rate, it's a
matter of who gets the most bang per stride, I would assume measured
in inches or fractions of inches per stride among elite athletes. In
her case it would more feet or yards per stride.
I'm sure it would look different than typical human running technique,
but she'd have different equipment than a typical human. Didn't people
at first laugh at the "flop" technique for high-jumping? | |
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26th September 2007, 11:43 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. <muzician21m> wrote in message
news:1190791679.808756.187140@w3g2000hsg. ...
: >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
: speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
: series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
: point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
: take.
:
: Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
: distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
: distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
: to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
: speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
: jumps than a traditional sprinter.
Wait, let me see if I understand. There's a fictional TV show about a woman
who has computer assisted, superhuman mechanical parts placed into her body,
allowing her to do the impossible on a regular basis, and you're having
problems with whether or not her stride rate and length are believable???
Hmmm...are you also having problems with the fact that Chuck hasn't been
promoted to assistant manager of the Nerd Herd yet even though he knows all
the secrets of the NSA and CIA combined? | |
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26th September 2007, 07:08 PM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. <muzician21m> wrote in message
news:1190791679.808756.187140@w3g2000hsg. ...
> >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
> speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
> series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
> point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
> take.
>
> Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
> distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
> distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
> to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
> speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
> jumps than a traditional sprinter.
>
You're overlooking the obvious, her anthrocytes are repairing the flesh at
and near the seams.
-- Ken from Chicago | |
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26th September 2007, 10:17 PM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. "HiC" <brassplyerm> wrote in message
news:1190821992.891497.145490@57g2000hsv. ...
: On Sep 26, 11:43 am, "userfriendly" <youserfrien...@google.net> wrote:
:
: > Hmmm...are you also having problems with the fact that Chuck hasn't been
: > promoted to assistant manager of the Nerd Herd yet even though he knows
all
: > the secrets of the NSA and CIA combined?
:
:
: What I find unrealistic is portraying someone who actually has solid
: computer knowledge working at the "Computer Tech" kiosk at one of
: these Megamart places to begin with.
Yep- point well-made! | |
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27th September 2007, 07:48 PM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. On Sep 26, 3:27 am, muzicia...m wrote:
> >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
>
> speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
> series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
> point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
> take.
>
> Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
> distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
> distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides?
Like watching the old Benny Hill show when they sped up things.
Except Benny Hill wasn't a BORE! | |
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28th September 2007, 05:29 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. On Sep 26, 2:27 am, muzicia...m wrote:
>
> From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
> speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
> series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
> point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
> take.
Based upon what they displayed on the show, the New Bionic Woman's leg
is not a robot leg, but more akin to a bunch of nanites (or similar
small devices) that "merge" with the human flesh. So the leg is not
"attached" to the human torso (which you are correct, would be a weak
link), but instead becomes a hybridized aggregate that is part flesh &
part device.
Thus most of the stress would be absorbed by the teeny-tiny nanites,
not the human torso..
Anyway, this show sucked for other reasons than the technology -
mainly the resemblance to Painkiller Jane's dull, plodding plot. (If
you can call it plot.) | |
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28th September 2007, 05:41 AM
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| | Guest | Problem with Bionic Woman's running. On Sep 26, 5:08 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@>
wrote:
> <muzicia...m> wrote in message
>
> news:1190791679.808756.187140@w3g2000hsg. ...
>
> > >From the previews I've seen, it seems that they attribute her super
> > speed to rapid stride turnover, much like the silliness of the old
> > series. The bionic legs still have to attach to flesh and bone at some
> > point, and there's going to be a limit to what the human parts can
> > take.
>
> > Wouldn't great speed come primarily from the strength to cover great
> > distance per stride - I would think with fewer strides over a given
> > distance rather than cartoonishly fast strides? That and the ability
> > to maintain a stride without fatigue. It seems to me that running at
> > speed, she'd more resemble someone taking a rapid succession of long
> > jumps than a traditional sprinter.
>
> You're overlooking the obvious, her anthrocytes are repairing the flesh at
> and near the seams.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
rocket scientist! pah. | |
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