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Old 16th May 2004, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Another thread (see "Mastercard ATM problems: Warning" thread)
reminded me about something that many people may not be aware of:
Most credit cards add a surcharge for international transactions.
First they change your transaction into dollars (or whatever your home
currency is). Then VISA or Mastercard adds a 1% fee to the
transaction. Then your credit card company (i.e. the issuing bank)
adds another 2% (usually).

There isn't anything you can do about the 1% that VISA or Mastercard
add on. But the 2% is something that is relatively new (last couple
of years) and not all banks do it. I use a Capital One card for
overseas travel specifically to avoid this charge. Capital One
doesn't add the additional fee (so far).

AmEx also adds on a few percent.

I suggest calling your credit card (the customer service number on the
card or on your statement) and asking what they charge for
international transactions. If the customer service person sounds
unsure, ask to speak to a supervisor. If your card charges the 2%,
and you expect to spend a few thousand dollars internationally, it may
be worth getting a different card. Note that these charges apply to
any foreign currency transaction, such as mail order from other
countries, or visits into Canada.

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Old 16th May 2004, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And do you have any suggestions for transferring funds for less overall
cost?

Dan K wrote:

> Another thread (see "Mastercard ATM problems: Warning" thread)
> reminded me about something that many people may not be aware of:
> Most credit cards add a surcharge for international transactions.
> First they change your transaction into dollars (or whatever your home
> currency is). Then VISA or Mastercard adds a 1% fee to the
> transaction. Then your credit card company (i.e. the issuing bank)
> adds another 2% (usually).
>
> There isn't anything you can do about the 1% that VISA or Mastercard
> add on. But the 2% is something that is relatively new (last couple
> of years) and not all banks do it. I use a Capital One card for
> overseas travel specifically to avoid this charge. Capital One
> doesn't add the additional fee (so far).
>
> AmEx also adds on a few percent.
>
> I suggest calling your credit card (the customer service number on the
> card or on your statement) and asking what they charge for
> international transactions. If the customer service person sounds
> unsure, ask to speak to a supervisor. If your card charges the 2%,
> and you expect to spend a few thousand dollars internationally, it may
> be worth getting a different card. Note that these charges apply to
> any foreign currency transaction, such as mail order from other
> countries, or visits into Canada.
>
> DanK
 
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Old 16th May 2004, 07:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah!! Spot on, Donald.

The deal they offer may include small, not well known charges - but it's
still better to use ATM's than any other source of foreign cash.

The Visa Electron Card, which Visa is promoting heavily charges bigger fees;
and since it is 'front loaded' with your cash, has the additional 'benefits'
of depriving you of interest and giving Visa an interest free loan of YOUR
money, which they then charge you to access!!!!! All with the complicit
approval of your 'friendly neighbourhood bank' - who also get a little out
of it all!!!

"Donald Newcomb" <drnewcomb@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:40a7a642_1@news1.prserv.net...
>
> "Dan K" <djk104@m> wrote in message
> news:f9fa7f07.0405160815.483c6981@c om...
> > I suggest calling your credit card (the customer service number on the
> > card or on your statement) and asking what they charge for
> > international transactions. If the customer service person sounds
> > unsure, ask to speak to a supervisor. If your card charges the 2%,
> > and you expect to spend a few thousand dollars internationally, it may
> > be worth getting a different card. Note that these charges apply to
> > any foreign currency transaction, such as mail order from other
> > countries, or visits into Canada.
> >

>
> Dan,
> I'm not sure that "most" banks add this fee, but some of the larger ones

do,
> and there is no justification for doing it, aside from greed. Since

learning
> about this practice, I think I'm about to dump my "backup" credit card. No
> sense in paying the extra fee when you don't have to.
>
> Also, watch out for merchants charging you in dollars while overseas. When
> they do the conversion, it is not to your advantage.
>
> However, unless you plan to spend $ million or so, the %1 credit card &

ATM
> exchange fee is the best deal going.
>
> --
> Donald R. Newcomb
> DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
>
>
 
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Old 16th May 2004, 08:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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In article <40a7a642_1@news1.prserv.net>,
"Donald Newcomb" <drnewcomb@attglobal.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure that "most" banks add this fee, but some of the larger ones do,
> and there is no justification for doing it, aside from greed. Since learning
> about this practice, I think I'm about to dump my "backup" credit card. No
> sense in paying the extra fee when you don't have to.


I used to have a Citibank Visa and still have an Amex.

I use an MBNA because it doesn't charge anything beyond the wholesale
currency exchange rate.

It's been that way for years though, so I don't know about this "new"
fee.
 
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"Frank F. Matthews" <frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote in message news:<0RNpc.102781$NR5.96067@fe1.texas.>...
> And do you have any suggestions for transferring funds for less overall
> cost?
>


I think that using an ATM is probably the best method. However, on a
recent trip I was unable to use my ATM card (see recent post in this
group titled "Mastercard ATM problems: Warning"). Next best is using
a credit card, as long as you get one that only charges the 1% fee,
and not an additional fee beyond that. This also has the convenience
of it being a credit card, i.e. don't need to carry a lot of cash,
don't need to pay until you return home, etc.
 
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