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Old 14th January 2004, 06:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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"Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote in message
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> "PTRAVEL" <ptravel88-usenetm> wrote in message
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> > "Banty" <Banty_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> > > In article <qzcNb.32478$G04.6749087@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, Evelyn

C.
>
> > I have to wear suits for my business and, no, I won't spend hours in

plane
> > wearing one because you don't like carryons. I, personally, have had my
> > bags delayed -- 4+ days in each case -- twice out of the four times I
> > checked bags on a business trip. I also carry a laptop (with associated
> > electronics), PDA, cellphone and charger, plus critical documents that I
> > need when I get there.
> >
> > It absolutely amazes me that you would be criticize someone who falls

> within
> > the _airline_determined_ requirement for carryon, which inconveniences

no
> > one except, perhaps, your personal sense of aesthetics.
> >

>
> I can totally understand Business Clothing, & Business related equipment.

I
> will gladly give up some of my space for another business traveler. I was
> behind a woman in Houston, who tried to take 2 normal carry-ons, and _2
> _small rolling suitcases with giant windchimes, made from small fire
> extinguisher bottles. She had a temper tantrum when she was told to go

back
> & check them. She didn't want to wait at baggage claim at the other end.


As I mentioned in another post, the people I see abusing carryon are almost
always casual flyers pulling stunts like the one you've described. Wind
chimes made of fire extinguisher bottles! Wow!


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Old 14th January 2004, 08:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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> Now that I'm a cyborg, I am tied to the bag with the CPAP, the battery
> backup and meds, in which other trivia now resides (like one change of
> clothing and the laptop).


Say, what do you do for distilled water for the CPC machine?

Marianne
 
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Old 14th January 2004, 10:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"Mike Cordelli" <mike@cordelli.com> wrote:

>But you can. Ask if the bag belongs to any of the others around you, of
>course it won't. Take the bag down, bring it to the FA and say I'm sorry,
>my bag doesn't fit, can you gate check it for me? Replace it with your bag
>and all is happy. You will be well off the plane before the guy in 89G gets
>back up and starts looking for his bag.


Love it!

--
Stephen

You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image
when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
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Old 15th January 2004, 10:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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In article <dA1Nb.4897$%B1.156@newssvr24.news.>,
"Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote:

> Here's a question for discussion;
> What's your opinion on carry-ons.
> I travel for business, and check my tools & suitcase. I carry on my
> Computer Case. I can't believe the amount of things that people try to
> stuff into the overheads. If I put my case under the seat, I have to sit
> with my legs in my chest. It goes up. I'll move it in an unusual
> circumstance, but not for the half dozen people toting 2 or 3 fairly large
> bags. And no matter what people think, the Airlines DON'T enforce the 1 bag
> rule.


I carry on a camera bag, a small backpack that holds my laptop and a few
assorted accessories such as some blank CD-R discs, ethernet cable, etc.
My camera bag has the usual camera stuff in it: a 35mm digital camera, a
lens, lens cleaning stuff, and my travel plans, plus passport (if I am
traveling on an international route). I also carry on a small grocery
bag with a few snacks on it and a bottle of water. The laptop goes in
the bin above my seat; camera bag stuffs easily beneath the seat in
front of me. After we reach cruising speed, I usually get up and take
out my laptop to watch a movie or listen to some music. Works well for
me.

There is no way I would ever allow my camera or computer equipment to
travel as checked luggage. Esp. after seeing how my suitcase gets abused
after many flights.
 
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Old 15th January 2004, 02:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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IClast@JPS.Net (Icono Clast) wrote in message news:<3a26924c.0401150253.7b5239da@ com>...
> Mark Hewett said:
> > I've had to wait in excess of 40 minutes after the
> > plane has landed, before my bag actually shows up

>
> I'm sure that happens but I've seldom had to wait at all as the last
> thing I do at an airport is get my bag.


You're lucky. *Everytime* I have flown into ONT*, depsite taking my
time to get to the baggage area (stop in the bathroom to freshen up,
get a drink of water, etc), I've had to wait more than an hour for my
bags! Arriving at 11pm, already after delayed flights, last thing I
want to do is wait another hour! Unfortunately, I'm usually bringing
loads of stuff (gifts, among other things) so am rarely able to travel
with just a carry-on.

*This has been in the new airport, never had that problem in the old
airport.

Less of a problem at other airports, but sometimes have had to wait a
long time, meaning missing a coach connection by a few minutes,
requiring waiting a couple of hours for the next one.

> > I carry on my computer, PDA, MP3 player, Movie camera, and
> > Digital camera. Typically I have a rolling computer case that goes
> > in overhead bin and a small backpack full of misc. electonic junk.

>
> Why? Airplanes have a broad selection of music in their earphones. Is
> your taste so refined that you can't listen to the generally insipid
> faire available on 'planes?


Ugh! Really can't stand most of the selection of music on
airplanes...and my tastes are not *that* refined. I don't bother
carrying my cd player though, as it's not worth it to me, even on long
trips since i'll be reading anyway, but the airplane music is rarely
tolerable, IMO.

Many flights present motion pictures
> (usually ones I wouldn't go out to see) and what are you going to
> photograph during a flight? The clouds? Yes, I can understand a camera
> to shoot scenes from a 'plane.


I carryon my digital camera, but that's because I don't want it stolen
or lost. And that's the deal with all my carryon stuff (which is
ALWAYS small enough to fit into one of the smaller standard carryon
bags anyway) - if something is valuable or fragile, I carry it on. I
HAVE had things stolen from my bags in the past, and I HAVE had things
damaged - esp when the bags are searched out of view. Things I
carefully wrapped being basically tossed back inside, arriving
damaged.

> If don't have the data in your computer at least two other places,
> such as on a disk in your locker at work and another at a friend's or
> relative's home, you're a fool! If you lose your computer and your
> house burns while you're away, you've lost it all.


Same as above. And I generally carry my computer with me on all
travel, for a variety of reasons (or leave at work if necessary).


>
> Evelyn C. Leeper said:
> > Or because twice the airlines have failed to send my luggage on
> > the same flight as me.

>
> It's happened when the bag was brought to my home. And to my hotels,
> etc.
>
> I wear a suit and tie when flying. My bag not arriving with me is
> certainly an angering inconvenience, but not a major one.


So after an Overnight flight and 15+ hours of travelling, you have to
go shopping to get some new basics and toiletries. Perhaps you enjoy
that, but after a long trip that's the *last* thing I want to do.

*Most* times I've had my bag delayed (and it has happened to me a
lot), it hasn't been delivered until the next day. Unless I'm going
home, where I have other things, it IS a major inconvenience. Not as
bad as the plane crashing, but not some thing I want to frequently do.

Actually, on my trips from the US to Asia, which are typically 25+
hrs, I change clothes and have a wash during one of my layovers. It
does WONDERS for my mood whilst flying. And of course, there's the
occassions when someone (or one's self, but I've never done it
myself), spills a drink on you whilst flying. It's really nice to have
something dry/clean to change into rather than sit for another 15+ hrs
in clothes sticky and smelly of soda or such. I just carry basics, not
the whole wardrobe, but it's well worth it.

FWIW - my carryon is small enough to fit into the overhead facing out
(as opposed to sideways) so you can still fit the full row's worth of
stuff, provided they all have similar bags. And either a daypack or
large purse sort of bag which fits under my seat. The computer goes in
one or the other of these. I actually prefer to have something under
my seat b/c I have short legs and need it to rest my feet on so they
don't dangle.

What I HATE, however, is people who lay their coats out across half
the bin. Well, it never lasts there.... Or people who don't bother to
put their carryons in sideways, making more space available so.
 
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Old 15th January 2004, 02:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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"Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote in message news:<9pjNb.8403$LR.6729@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m>...
> "Banty" <Banty_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <qzcNb.32478$G04.6749087@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, Evelyn C.

> Leeper
> > says...
> > >
> > >Mark Hewitt wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Icono Clast" <IClast@JPS.Net> wrote in message
> > >> news:3a26924c.0401140231.5f80efc5@c om...
> > >>
> > >>>"Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I don't understand why people burden themselves on the long walks to
> > >>>and from the gangways and then trouble their fellow passengers by
> > >>>blocking an aisle. I just don't get it. When they're a bit early have
> > >>>have to go to the toilet, they ask strangers to "watch my bag" not
> > >>>knowing whether that stranger is going to disappear with it. I just
> > >>>don't get it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Because quite often I've had to wait in excess of 40 minutes after the

> plane
> > >> has landed, before my bag actually shows up. If I could get away with

> just
> > >> hang baggage when I go on a flight. I would do that!

> >
> > If you're on a business trip and the time is critical - then pack lighter.

> Wear
> > clothing passable for your business in case there is a problem. If you're
> > moving or have acquired some largish items, ship stuff. If you're

> travelling on
> > pleasure, the first step to pleasure would be to learn how to relax and

> stop
> > counting minutes at the baggage carousel.
> >
> > >
> > >Or because twice the airlines have failed to send my luggage on the same
> > >flight as me.

> >
> > Twice out of how many flights? And did they or did they not get the bags

> to you
> > within a day?

>
> Occasionally happens to me too. Usually Arrives at my Hotel within 6 hours.
> I prefer them to misplace it when I'm going home. I don't have to lug it
> home, and they deliver it to my door in a few hours.


heh, one time when I had both of my 2 70lb* bags delayed,I was rather
glad after the fact when they were delivered to my doorstep as I
realised I didn't have to carry them myself, though I felt sorry for
the delivery guys.

However, I had to wait more than 24 hrs for them. I don't think I've
ever received my delayed luggage within 6 hrs! One time I had to wait
more than 48 hrs (there's only one flight 3x per week), but that was
just a small bag...and fortunately I'd packed the food (cheeses) into
the other small bag which *did* arrive with me. Most often, after an
evening arrival, it's been the next day, in the afternoon. For that
length of time, I at least want to carry with me a change of
undergarments and toiletries. It's happened to me enough times -
maybe I just have bad luck - that I prefer to be prepared.
 
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In article <3a26924c.0401140231.5f80efc5@com >,
IClast@JPS.Net (Icono Clast) wrote:

> "Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote:
> > What's your opinion on carry-ons.
> > I travel for business, and check my tools & suitcase. I carry on my
> > Computer Case. I can't believe the amount of things that people try to
> > stuff into the overheads. If I put my case under the seat, I have to sit
> > with my legs in my chest. It goes up. I'll move it in an unusual
> > circumstance, but not for the half dozen people toting 2 or 3 fairly large
> > bags. And no matter what people think, the Airlines DON'T enforce the 1 bag
> > rule.

>
> I don't carry ANY thing 'cept maybe something to read.
>
> I don't understand why people burden themselves on the long walks to
> and from the gangways and then trouble their fellow passengers by
> blocking an aisle. I just don't get it. When they're a bit early have
> have to go to the toilet, they ask strangers to "watch my bag" not
> knowing whether that stranger is going to disappear with it. I just
> don't get it.


It is all a matter of personal preference. I almost ways travel with
my photography gear and my laptop. That's about $5,000 worth of stuff
and there is no way I would allow that much valuable equipment to go
in my checked luggage considering how rough luggage is treated and how
unsecure it is.

My laptop ways about five pounts. Add another five pounds for my laptop's
accessories and it is no big deal for me to carry in the backpack that
I use to transport my laptop. I just sling it on my back and away I go.
My camera gear goes in my camera bag which is also no big deal to sling
around my shoulder.

I also travel with a grocery bag that has a magazine or two in it and
a few snacks, along with a liter of water. Again, no big deal. I have
no trouble transporting my carry-on stuff through the airport. Maybe
when I get to be a senior citizen, there might be a problem, but that's
quite a few years off. And I take all of about two minutes to stowe
my stuff in the overhead bin and under the seat in front of me. Again,
its simply not a big deal. When I arrive at my destination, I almost
always wait for all the other passengers to disembark so I can get my
stuff from the overhead bin without getting in anyone else's way. The
only time I rush to deboard a flight is when I have to run to a
connecting flight, but that doesn't happen often.
 
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In article <I7jNb.7977$xD5.7586@newssvr22.news.> ,
"Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote:
>
> I like the Shoe thing. We have to have our shoes inspected because some
> nimrod had explosives in his shoes. Think of what will happen if they find
> a guy with a stick of dynamite up his . (They already have the rubber
> gloves)


Actually, only shoes that have metal components are searched. I solved
the problem by wearing sneakers onboard flights. I have never, not once,
had my shoes inspected because they contain no metal at all and I travel
about three times a year on average. My previous flight was about one
month ago and my next one will be in early March with another trip
probably later in March so I am not an infrequent flyer.
 
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> In article <I7jNb.7977$xD5.7586@newssvr22.news.> ,
> "Jim Davis Sr." <jimsr31@m> wrote:
> >
> > I like the Shoe thing. We have to have our shoes inspected because some
> > nimrod had explosives in his shoes. Think of what will happen if they find
> > a guy with a stick of dynamite up his . (They already have the rubber
> > gloves)

>
> Actually, only shoes that have metal components are searched. I solved
> the problem by wearing sneakers onboard flights. I have never, not once,
> had my shoes inspected because they contain no metal at all and I travel
> about three times a year on average. My previous flight was about one
> month ago and my next one will be in early March with another trip
> probably later in March so I am not an infrequent flyer.


you are apparently oblivious to the fact that the infamous bomb shoes
were sneakers

sneakers would be the easiest type shoe to rig with explosives given
their large size and goofy appearance
 
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> heh, one time when I had both of my 2 70lb* bags delayed,I was rather
> glad after the fact when they were delivered to my doorstep as I
> realised I didn't have to carry them myself, though I felt sorry for
> the delivery guys.
>
> However, I had to wait more than 24 hrs for them. I don't think I've
> ever received my delayed luggage within 6 hrs! One time I had to wait
> more than 48 hrs (there's only one flight 3x per week), but that was
> just a small bag...and fortunately I'd packed the food (cheeses) into
> the other small bag which *did* arrive with me. Most often, after an
> evening arrival, it's been the next day, in the afternoon. For that
> length of time, I at least want to carry with me a change of
> undergarments and toiletries. It's happened to me enough times -
> maybe I just have bad luck - that I prefer to be prepared.


Mine really are within 6 hours or so. 80% of my flights are about
1.5 to 2 hours. They usually do a good turn around with my bags. The other
20% are international flights, but so far, my bags arrived when I did.
 
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