Electric AC Compressor in Dixie

[bwilson4web]

On May 13, 7:46.am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
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> <d31f7e4b-4c5f-48ff-b5dc-20ec51b21...@hd10g2000vbb..............com>,
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> .bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
> > Unlike engine driven compressors, there are no seals, electric
> > clutches, or belts.
>
> No seals? .Really?

No shafts, no seals, no electric clutches. See Ebay item:
110674772862

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 13, 7:46.am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <d31f7e4b-4c5f-48ff-b5dc-20ec51b21...@hd10g2000vbb..............com>,
>
> .bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
> > Unlike engine driven compressors, there are no seals, electric
> > clutches, or belts.
>
> No seals? .Really?

My wife's Prius compressor looks like this Ebay item: 140444294007

Toyota has been putting in electric AC compressors for both the NHW20,
2004-09, and ZVW30. They are exceptionally efficient and run even when
the engine is off. Again, something the gassers and diesels do not do.

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 13, 5:53.am, bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
.. . .
>
> Unlike engine driven compressors, there are no seals, electric
> clutches, or belts. . . .

One of the interesting aspects is how few Prius air conditioner
failures occurred after the electric compressor was introduced in
2004. I have seen at least one ordinary air conditioner failure with
the NHW11 that still uses the pulley, belt, electric clutch
compressor.

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 15, 11:42.am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
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> <cc2b888b-46fe-4db2-826f-c89e57a8b...@l6g2000vbn..............com>,
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> .bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
> > > No, Bob, the question was "what do you mean by "gasser" and how is a
> > > "gasser" different from the Prius?
>
> > Well quoting myself from the earlier answer:
>
> > "Thanks for asking as there are several sources that show the
> > superior
> > advantages of the Prius electric compressor.
>
> What do you mean by "gasser"?

List a make and model of car and we'll let you know if it is a gasser.

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 19, 7:06.pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
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> <52698245-cdf7-4217-be96-0c750004b...@24g2000yqk..............com>,
>
> .bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
> > > What do you mean by "gasser"?
>
> > List a make and model of car and we'll let you know if it is a gasser.
>
> Toyota Prius.

Excellent choice. It is a hybrid electric, not a 'gasser.'

Next?

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 20, 5:44.am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
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> .bwilson4web <bwilson4...@..........> wrote:
> > > > List a make and model of car and we'll let you know if it is a gasser.
>
> > > Toyota Prius.
>
> > Excellent choice. It is a hybrid electric, not a 'gasser.'
>
> What differentiates a hybrid electric car, which uses gasoline as its
> sole source of energy, from a "gasser"?

Do you have another example, make and model, to compare to the Prius?

Bob Wilson

[totfit]

On Fri, 20 May 2011 09:47:32 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> The Prius uses gasoline as its sole source of energy. That makes it a
> "gasser", right?
>
> A "gasser" uses gasoline--right?

Uh, gasoline is not it's sole source of energy. That's why it is a
hybrid.

[totfit]

On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:37:42 -0500, Al Falfa wrote:

> What differentiates a hybrid electric car, which uses gasoline as its
> sole source of energy, from a "gasser"?
>
> The ability to capture kinetic energy.

He can look it up in a dictionary if he doesn't understand.

[bwilson4web]

On May 21, 2:43.pm, "Al Falfa" <c...@eastforty.fld> wrote:
> "bwilson4web" .wrote in message
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> news:95ffe8cd-8a53-46b4-849b-6d0fe92dc382@q30g2000vbs..............com...
>
> >Prius electric only range is typically just a mile but it can be extended
> >which makes the car
> >substantially safer than a gasser or diesel.
>
> Yes, from a dead start the electric-only range is only about a mile but, as
> Newton's First Law of Motion so eloquently states, a body in motion tends to
> stay in motion. .A little captured kinetic energy can extend that range
> quite a bit if you going 40 mph when you run out of gas.

Yes indeed and the Prius can climb on traction battery power say to
reach a gas station at the next off ramp. A lot of folks have voided
the 'gas can walk' because of this unique, Prius feature.

Bob Wilson

[bwilson4web]

On May 23, 5:41.am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
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> <4394265b-3499-44fe-860c-f212e1677...@j25g2000vbr..............com>,
>
.. . .
>
> . . . the REAL world of physics . . .

I just checked my wife's ZVW30 and the 12 V battery has a 140A fusible
link and the DC-to-DC converter, 125A. So we're looking at:

125*13 V ~= 1,625 W sustained DC output

So I'll get a 1.5kW sine-wave inverter for my wife's car. This will
let us run more major appliances in the future including our larger,
room size, air conditioners. This will work.

Bob Wilson