How long would a diesel hybrid last?

From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
would last?

One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?

On Jul 16, 2:06 pm, cr113 <cr...@m> wrote:
> From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> would last?
>
> One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?

A diesel hybrid = not a good combo (both have lots of torque @ low RPM
+ diesel's don't like to be shut down & restarted lots ...)

On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, gnu linux <rob.fr...@> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 2:06 pm, cr113 <cr...@m> wrote:
>
> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> > would last?
>
> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
>
> A diesel hybrid = not a good combo (both have lots of torque @ low RPM
> + diesel's don't like to be shut down & restarted lots ...)

I hope toyota makes a small hybrid pickup. I'd kill for a small truck
that gets 40 mpg.

On Jul 18, 11:20 am, "Willy" <w...@> wrote:
> "cr113" <cr...@m> wrote in message
>
> news:ffca1884-43d5-406a-bc14-eac5fe1c02ab@w7g2000hsa..com...
>
>
>
> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> > would last?
>
> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
>
> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010. I
> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50 MPG
> on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI diesel
> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>
> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for the
> auto industry.
>
> Willy

100k a year is 273 miles for 365 days a year, woah!
The prius has been around for ... say 10 years? There a small
significant of owners who said that the batteries have failed. But
still. good choice of vehicle for that yearly mileage.

On Jul 18, 10:20 am, "Willy" <w...@> wrote:
> "cr113" <cr...@m> wrote in message
>
> news:ffca1884-43d5-406a-bc14-eac5fe1c02ab@w7g2000hsa..com...
>
>
>
> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> > would last?
>
> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
>
> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.  I
> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50 MPG
> on the highway with no batteries to contend with.  My reason for not
> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
> imagine replacing batteries in one year.  The Jetta super green TDI diesel
> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.

I wish someone would make a small pickup that gets 35-40 mpg. Over the
last few years pickups have gotten bigger and bigger. The Tacomas and
Nissans are now classified as mid sized. I don't care whether it's
diesel or hybrid, I'm just tired of getting in the low 20s mpg. I
don't need to haul a lot of weight but trucks are so damn convenient
for carrying things like bikes, canoes, rug doctors, etc, etc.

"Willy" ...
> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010. I
> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
> MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI diesel
> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>
> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for the
> auto industry.
>
Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are Prii
with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
Tomes

"EdV" <systmengr@m> wrote in message
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> On Jul 18, 11:20 am, "Willy" <w...@> wrote:
>> "cr113" <cr...@m> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ffca1884-43d5-406a-bc14-eac5fe1c02ab@w7g2000hsa..com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
>> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
>> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
>> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
>> > would last?
>>
>> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
>> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
>> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
>>
>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>> I
>> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
>> MPG
>> on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
>> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
>> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI
>> diesel
>> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
>> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>
>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for the
>> auto industry.
>>
>> Willy
>
> 100k a year is 273 miles for 365 days a year, woah!
> The prius has been around for ... say 10 years? There a small
> significant of owners who said that the batteries have failed. But
> still. good choice of vehicle for that yearly mileage.

Actually many years are more on the order of 70K..... but I've had a couple
of years that were over 100K.

Willy

"cr113" <cr113@m> wrote in message
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On Jul 18, 10:20 am, "Willy" <w...@> wrote:
> "cr113" <cr...@m> wrote in message
>
> news:ffca1884-43d5-406a-bc14-eac5fe1c02ab@w7g2000hsa..com...
>
>
>
> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> > would last?
>
> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
>
> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010. I
> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
> MPG
> on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI diesel
> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.

I wish someone would make a small pickup that gets 35-40 mpg. Over the
last few years pickups have gotten bigger and bigger. The Tacomas and
Nissans are now classified as mid sized. I don't care whether it's
diesel or hybrid, I'm just tired of getting in the low 20s mpg. I
don't need to haul a lot of weight but trucks are so damn convenient
for carrying things like bikes, canoes, rug doctors, etc, etc.

I do too, and I think the solution will be a diesel version in a small pick
up - and rumor has it we'll be seeing those from several mfg's in the next
two years.

Willy

"Tomes" <ask.me@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Willy" ...
>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>> I just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
>> MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
>> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
>> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI
>> diesel (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states)
>> could easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>
>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for the
>> auto industry.
>>
> Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are
> Prii with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
> Tomes

At 100K a year, and with anticipated battery life (based on what I've read,
which is perhaps speculation) of 100K miles, I would need to replace the
batteries once a year.

Willy

"Willy" <wesk@> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <ask.me@here.net> wrote...
>> "Willy" ...
>>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>>> I just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver
>>> 45-50 MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason
>>> for not considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just
>>> couldn't imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green
>>> TDI diesel (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50
>>> states) could easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>>
>>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for
>>> the auto industry.
>>>
>> Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are
>> Prii with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
>> Tomes
>
> At 100K a year, and with anticipated battery life (based on what I've
> read, which is perhaps speculation) of 100K miles, I would need to replace
> the batteries once a year.
>
It is speculation that has not manifested itself.
Tomes