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Old 1st June 2008, 05:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are there any models where availability is a problem. I heard that
some hybrids are in short supply.

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Old 1st June 2008, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ron Peterson wrote:
> Are there any models where availability is a problem. I heard that
> some hybrids are in short supply.
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I would think that some hybrids, camry, and yaris are in short supply in
at least some areas. The same thing is probably true for honda accords,
civics, fits, and ford escape hybrids, as well. the same thing is not
true for any dodges, however.

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Old 1st June 2008, 06:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Ron Peterson" <ron@shell.core.com> wrote in message
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>> Are there any models where availability is a problem. I heard that
>> some hybrids are in short supply.
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> Really? Why would you suspect that a hybrid would be in short supply?

Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
 
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Old 1st June 2008, 10:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I pulled up "prius" on the Lithia site (west coastToyota dealer) they show
69 of them scattered from California to Texas to Dakotas. But they had
pretty stiff prices on them.

Ron in Ca

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> some hybrids are in short supply.
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Old 1st June 2008, 11:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"ron" <yabba@doodoo.org> wrote in message
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>I pulled up "prius" on the Lithia site (west coastToyota dealer) they show
>69 of them scattered from California to Texas to Dakotas. But they had
>pretty stiff prices on them.
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> Ron in Ca


As supply goes down and/or demand goes up, then prices will rise. Like the
days of Japanese import quotas in the 1970's and 1980's (before they were
made in the US), you can expect to pay more than list price for a Prius.

In 1979 I was very lucky to "only" pay list price for a Mazda 626, and same
for a 1986 Accord LXi. I signed a contract for the Accord LXi before they
had any to sell (it was a major change from the 1985), and buy the time I
came to pick up the car about 4 weeks later they were charging about $1500
over list price.
 
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Old 8th June 2008, 12:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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On Jun 7, 10:24 pm, "ron" <ya...@doodoo.org> wrote:
> Ron, I bought an 08 Limited AWD in 7/08.  (it has average 19.2 MPG for 9400
> miles)  This tank at 17.2 and most short trips under 6 miles


Thanks for giving your results.

> The salesman suggested that it would take a long time to recoup the extra 5
> or 6k based on mileage alone.  He'd just driven an 07 hybrid to/from/around
> San Francisco for a few days and said it was fine with slow speeds and long
> hills - he thought where we live (Redding, Ca0 that the economy of the
> hybrid wouldn't be really worth the $$ - I've never done any math on it but
> 6k is a lot of bucks at 10-11k miles/year in the hills.  He said he'd
> suggest hybrid to someone driving start/stop and below 30mph (real estate
> agent?) that over 30 give/take it ran on gasoline engine .


If the hybrid gets 25 mpg, than it would take 150,000 miles to pay off
the hybrid premium at $4.00 a gal.

> Just his take


Looking at prices, I would be paying $3-4,000 for getting a SUV
instead of minivan.

I think that there are some other benefits to hybrid vehicles than the
better milage. I have heard that there is less brake wear because of
regenerative braking. Also for the same internal combustion engine,
the acceleration is better.

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"Ron Peterson" ...
I think that there are some other benefits to hybrid vehicles than the
better milage. I have heard that there is less brake wear because of
regenerative braking.
____________________
True as the brakes in the Prius only use the pads at 7 MOH and below unless
panic stopping.
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Also for the same internal combustion engine,
the acceleration is better.
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Because of the electric assist.
 
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