New Vehicle Oil Change?

"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote in message
news:g%Q%j.7519$jA.1354@trndny09...
> Buying a brand new vehicle someday soon. I've heard that you should
> change the oil in the first 50 miles and then follow their regular
> schedule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R

No it is not necessary. If you are little paranoid, change after 2500 miles,
then change again after 7500 miles. Switch to full synthetic after 7500
miles (you will not regret it).

In article <g%Q%j.7519$jA.1354@trndny09>,
"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:

> Buying a brand new vehicle someday soon. I've heard that you should change
> the oil in the first 50 miles and then follow their regular schedule.
>
> Thoughts?

When you acquire your shiny new $30,000 toy, you might think twice
before simply tossing that owner's manual into the trash.

After that, you might think twice about actually opening it up and
reading it. I know, I know--you're a he-man, and you know how to drive
a car. You don't need no stinkin' manual. That's what they all say.

Then they come to places like this and ask sipid questions like, "When
should I change my oil?" and "How do I reset the maintenance required
light?" and "What are those funny red buttons down there by the door
handle?"

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-070DC5.09060130052008@nntp3.usenetserver.com...
> In article <g%Q%j.7519$jA.1354@trndny09>,
> "Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>
>> Buying a brand new vehicle someday soon. I've heard that you should
>> change
>> the oil in the first 50 miles and then follow their regular schedule.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> When you acquire your shiny new $30,000 toy, you might think twice
> before simply tossing that owner's manual into the trash.
>
> After that, you might think twice about actually opening it up and
> reading it. I know, I know--you're a he-man, and you know how to drive
> a car. You don't need no stinkin' manual. That's what they all say.
>
> Then they come to places like this and ask sipid questions like, "When
> should I change my oil?" and "How do I reset the maintenance required
> light?" and "What are those funny red buttons down there by the door
> handle?"
>
Too true, Elmo. After I bought my '03 Avalon, I noticed that the
windshield wipers didn't seem to be seated low enough in the gap between the
hood and windshield, and I thought I'd have to remove them and reinstall.
But fortunately I remembered the manual (RTFM!) and found that this car had
an unusual feature, the ability to seat the wipers above the gap in case of
snow falling in the gap and freezing the wipers in the low position, so
following the instructions, I simply pushed down hard on the wiper bracket,
and VOILA! they popped downward into the gap! problem solved.

On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:41:37 -0400, Mark A wrote:

> "Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote in message
> news:g%Q%j.7519$jA.1354@trndny09...
>> Buying a brand new vehicle someday soon. I've heard that you should
>> change the oil in the first 50 miles and then follow their regular
>> schedule.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
> No it is not necessary. If you are little paranoid, change after 2500
> miles, then change again after 7500 miles. Switch to full synthetic
> after 7500 miles (you will not regret it).

I think he should change it the first time he puts gas in it, and then
add a quart every time he adds gas...

Joe wrote:
> Thanks for the great advice Elmo. Go tickle yourself.
>

You may not like the way he said it, but read your owner's manual from
cover to cover. And follow their maintenance advice. They know more
about the car than anyone else.

Jeff

In article <pW10k.1807$Yw1.1602@trndny02>,
"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the great advice Elmo. Go tickle yourself.

What, you don't like being outed as one of those he-men types who throw
the manual in the trash and then come here expecting others to give it
to you for free, on demand?

On Fri, 30 May 2008 21:56:13 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <pW10k.1807$Yw1.1602@trndny02>,
> "Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great advice Elmo. Go tickle yourself.
>
> What, you don't like being outed as one of those he-men types who throw
> the manual in the trash and then come here expecting others to give it to
> you for free, on demand?

Dude, it's probably jim beam trying to bait me again...

I figured it out this morning...

Joe wrote:

> Buying a brand new vehicle someday soon. I've heard that you should change
> the oil in the first 50 miles and then follow their regular schedule.

Don't change it until the time and mileage recommended by the owner's
manual. Engines are cleaned much better at the factory than they used
to be, and you don't want to end up with a stuck piston ring that will
make the engine burn a quart of oil every 1000 miles forever.

"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote in message
news:Ou30k.41$pK.36@trndny06...
>> IMO, you should ignore all future advice from whoever told you to change
>> the oil in the first 50 miles because the source of their advice is
>> suspect.
>>
>> Follow the maintenance schedule in your owner's manual for best and
>> cost-effective results. Changing the oil too early can interfere with
>> engine break-in.
>
> I hear this all the time and as a machinist-of-sorts working with
> tolerances at a higher level than Toyota, I wonder why or how this might
> be true...

What is a "machinist-of-sorts"???

In article <Y730k.68$Kw3.4@trndny01>,
"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:

> Advice is welcome anytime as is disagreement. However, idiocracy is a sign
> of the times in newsgroups and was not really a problem until maybe 5-7
> years ago. It was always present, but now it seems to be dominant at times.

Not unlike the idiocracy of asking random strangers to read you the
contents of the owner's manual of the car you just bought, and then
refusing to believe what the manufacturer wrote in the owner's manual.