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Old 31st March 2007, 12:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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>>>Electro-galvanised steel is the key to non-rusting cars.
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>>>It's *that* simple.


Ever hear of the Chevy Vega?
 
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Old 31st March 2007, 05:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Noozer wrote:

> >>>Electro-galvanised steel is the key to non-rusting cars.
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> >>>It's *that* simple.

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> Ever hear of the Chevy Vega?


Nope.

Graham
 
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Old 31st March 2007, 10:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:51:33 +0000, Noozer wrote:

>>>>Electro-galvanised steel is the key to non-rusting cars.
>>>>
>>>>It's *that* simple.

>
> Ever hear of the Chevy Vega?


I knew a guy that had the Cosworth Twin Cam model. Nice car!

But overall they were pretty bad. Detroit hadn't gotten the hang of an
all-aluminum engine, so they started smoking after the second oil change
(or so it seemed!).

It's too bad...it was a cool car and could have been an Import Killer if
it had been done right.
 
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Old 1st April 2007, 11:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Default Stop the old oil change arguments...here's the scoop

people that go by the color of the oil and say their oil looks good
after 5000 miles . looks clear so they think that the oil is good for a
while longer. the only thing that means is the oil is not cleaning the
engine like it should. just like if you are washing your dirty hands
and the water and soap look clear . but your hands are still dirty. the
soap and water are not doing their job. would much rather see oil that
is a little dark after 5000 miles. that means the oil is doing its job.
of course oil also has to lubricate
 
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Old 1st April 2007, 11:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:13:31 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

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>
> Noozer wrote:
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>> >>>Electro-galvanised steel is the key to non-rusting cars.
>> >>>
>> >>>It's *that* simple.

>>
>> Ever hear of the Chevy Vega?

>
> Nope.
>
> Graham


He's a lucky one!

Could have been a real Import Beater if GM hadn't screwed it up.
 
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Old 1st April 2007, 11:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> NO two seater car has even sold well in the US, foreign or domestic.


It will be interesting to see how the Saturn and Pontiac 2-seaters sell.

Toyota continues to
> offer the same S2000 for ten years but it sells for $36,000 in order to
> make money at its sales volume.


The S2000 is a Honda.

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Old 2nd April 2007, 11:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:

> The only car I would have considered owning back then was a Nova,


Good grief, the Nova was ! NOTHING about that car was worth owning.
Now a pre-1974 Dart on the other hand.... completely different story.
 
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Old 4th April 2007, 06:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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"Matthew T. Russotto" <russotto@grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <460E256D.90D3DD91@m>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@m> wrote:
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> >> And, if you get ONE scratch on it, it
> >> rusts.

> >
> >No it doesn't. Even if the scratch goes down to base metal.


As long as there is a substantial coating of metallic zinc in the
near vicinity of the scratch, the rust will be inhibited. This is
a very basic premise in cathodic protection. Zinc is higher on the
electromotive series than iron, which means it will be sacrificed
in the corrosion reaction before the iron is.

Now, I'll freely admit, a daub of zinc in the center of a mile of exposed
steel will not hold the mark. Other factors are in play when you are
so far overbalanced.

With regard to ternplate (steel coated with lead, in this example) the
steel will not corrode as long as the lead coating is intact. Lead is
BELOW steel in the electromotive series. As soon as penetration
through the lead coating reaches the iron or steel layer, corrosion
can not only occur (a suitable electrolyte being present) it will be
ferocious, as the ferric alloy is sacrificed to the protection of the
lead.
 
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