Is E85 gas safe?

I see this cheaper gas on some stations: E85 for $3/g when unleaded reg
is $4/g. However, some say it is bad for car engines (I have 98 Camry).
If so, what is it aimed at? :)

In article
<95937080-35f9-4a9b-bc1a-b46cbe836417@z66g2000hsc..com>,
ransley <Mark_Ransleym> wrote:

: Regular gas is 10% alcohol, for years the gas companys tried to
: convince us that was bad for your car. But it does give much less
: power-mpg, and when you figure the lower price and lower mpg gasolene
: is a better deal.

So we would be better off paying extra for mid-grade or even premium?

On Aug 1, 6:22 pm, Fat Moe <Fat...@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
> Newbie wrote:
> > I see this cheaper gas on some stations: E85 for $3/g when unleaded reg
> > is $4/g. However, some say it is bad for car engines (I have 98 Camry).
> > If so, what is it aimed at? :)
>
>   I watch the agriculture shows and they push push push ethanol, but I
> have yet to see them talk about an ethanol fueled tractor.   Now it
> seems to me that if ethanol was such a great green fuel they ought to
> power their tractors with the stuff.
>    You sure don't want the stuff in an older lawnmower or chainsaw the
> fuel lines will turn to gum.

Farm tractors use so little fuel (all tractors combined) compared to
all the fuel cars use, that the tractors burn almost no fuel. Plus,
many tractors burn biodiesel or diesel.

Jeff

On Aug 1, 4:45 pm, AKT <a...@null.void> wrote:
> In article
> <95937080-35f9-4a9b-bc1a-b46cbe836...@z66g2000hsc..com>,
>
> ransley <Mark_Rans...m> wrote:
>
> : Regular gas is 10% alcohol, for years the gas companys tried to
> : convince us that was bad for your car. But it does give much less
> : power-mpg, and when you figure the lower price and lower mpg gasolene
> : is a better deal.
>
> So we would be better off paying extra for mid-grade or even premium?

No just use regular, mid or premium are only needed if stated, some
high performace cars are to high a compression for regular. If a car
that states regular knocks it needs a tune up, not better gas. The
cost difference of higher grade does not pay off on increased milage
offsetting the higher grades cost

On Aug 1, 5:22 pm, Fat Moe <Fat...@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
> Newbie wrote:
> > I see this cheaper gas on some stations: E85 for $3/g when unleaded reg
> > is $4/g. However, some say it is bad for car engines (I have 98 Camry).
> > If so, what is it aimed at? :)
>
>   I watch the agriculture shows and they push push push ethanol, but I
> have yet to see them talk about an ethanol fueled tractor.   Now it
> seems to me that if ethanol was such a great green fuel they ought to
> power their tractors with the stuff.
>    You sure don't want the stuff in an older lawnmower or chainsaw the
> fuel lines will turn to gum.

Commercial Tractors are Diesel, low rpm diesels last 10 x ++ as long
as gas motors.

On Aug 1, 5:35 pm, Jeff <jeff....@> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 6:22 pm, Fat Moe <Fat...@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
>
> > Newbie wrote:
> > > I see this cheaper gas on some stations: E85 for $3/g when unleaded reg
> > > is $4/g. However, some say it is bad for car engines (I have 98 Camry).
> > > If so, what is it aimed at? :)
>
> >   I watch the agriculture shows and they push push push ethanol, but I
> > have yet to see them talk about an ethanol fueled tractor.   Now it
> > seems to me that if ethanol was such a great green fuel they ought to
> > power their tractors with the stuff.
> >    You sure don't want the stuff in an older lawnmower or chainsaw the
> > fuel lines will turn to gum.
>
> Farm tractors use so little fuel (all tractors combined) compared to
> all the fuel cars use, that the tractors burn almost no fuel. Plus,
> many tractors burn biodiesel or diesel.
>
> Jeff

Thats not true about their fuel usage, they use alot of fuel to run
they are heavy big tires and made to last, diesel has about 17% more
energy than gas but the reason for commercial trucks and all
commercial equipment using diesel is diesels last at least 10x longer.
its all in rpm, a 3600 rpm motor may last 300-3000 hrs, a 1800 rpm
12000 - maybe 80000 hrs, a slow 900 rpm boat engine 500000 hrs, its
all in the rpm.

On Aug 1, 6:37 pm, Fat Moe <Fat...@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 6:22 pm, Fat Moe <Fat...@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
> >> Newbie wrote:
> >>> I see this cheaper gas on some stations: E85 for $3/g when unleaded reg
> >>> is $4/g. However, some say it is bad for car engines (I have 98 Camry).
> >>> If so, what is it aimed at? :)
> >>   I watch the agriculture shows and they push push push ethanol, but I
> >> have yet to see them talk about an ethanol fueled tractor.   Now it
> >> seems to me that if ethanol was such a great green fuel they ought to
> >> power their tractors with the stuff.
> >>    You sure don't want the stuff in an older lawnmower or chainsaw the
> >> fuel lines will turn to gum.
>
> > Farm tractors use so little fuel (all tractors combined) compared to
> > all the fuel cars use, that the tractors burn almost no fuel. Plus,
> > many tractors burn biodiesel or diesel.
>
> > Jeff
>
>   What it amounts to is ethanol does not store well, is hygroscopic and
> does not have the energy per gallon of diesel. In an industrial engine
> it is not an ideal fuel.  Overall it's not as good as gasoline or diesel
> as a fuel.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But the alcohol does remove some water allowing it to be burned and
not sit on the bottom of your tank or freeze your lines at -20f. years
ago before alcohol waster in the gas was a bigger issue. Gas is better
but what can you do.