TOYOTA QUALITY IS THE THING OF THE PAST

Has the car ever been wrecked ?? Could account for the wind noise. But
it sounds like your friends car has been neglected & needs to be taken to
a different dealer for a proper diag & tuneup
My ex has a 2001 4 cyl and it is hard to tell if it is running when
you are stopped at a traffic light

"EdV" <edramirventura@> wrote in message
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> Sounds more like a user problem and not a design problem. Each and
> every car needs care, if you expect it to perform well without care
> then youre in the wrong direction. Why don't you ask your friend on how
> he cares for his car.
>
The ones to go for are those which survive bad treatment, they will do best
when looked after.

> They didn't name the Camry as America's best selling car for nothing :)
>
Best selling and best car are often 2 different things. It will be 15 years
before we know if they were right.

In 2005 Toyota recalled more cars than sold in th US, you dont last long
with recalls like that. Yes their quality is down, the new Corola is
delayed 1 yr so they will try to get it right. The last time I remember
a car company recalling more cars than sold was Ford in 1973 or so.

I absolutely agree
I owe two camrys 1998 and 2002.
I recently checked out the brand new 2007 toyota camry LE
I feel the 2002-2006 camry is better than the 2007 camry.
As Camry steps on the gas to be tne Number one car company in
the world-- QUALITY WILL SUFFER
they are simply rampng up production too aggressively!!
so be careful about the late model Toyotas
I expect quality to slip a little
good points
The camrys years 1996 to 2004 were great cars
had a better resale value in Ohio, that BMVs and Merceseds benz
I found that amazing!!
m Ransley wrote:
> In 2005 Toyota recalled more cars than sold in th US, you dont last long
> with recalls like that. Yes their quality is down, the new Corola is
> delayed 1 yr so they will try to get it right. The last time I remember
> a car company recalling more cars than sold was Ford in 1973 or so.

No it won't, infact it's very hard to get a Camry 07. The waiting
period is awful. Toyota had to stop orders due to surge in demand. I
got my 07 last May and after that people have to wait for months.
Production remains the same and people just have to wait. I know this
since people would walk up to me and ask me how long I waited to get
the car and comlaint of stock availability plus I have read it in car
magazines.

> I recently checked out the brand new 2007 toyota camry LE
> I feel the 2002-2006 camry is better than the 2007 camry.
> As Camry steps on the gas to be tne Number one car company in
> the world-- QUALITY WILL SUFFER
> they are simply rampng up production too aggressively!!

"EdV" <edramirventura@> wrote in message
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> No it won't, infact it's very hard to get a Camry 07. The waiting
> period is awful. Toyota had to stop orders due to surge in demand. I
> got my 07 last May and after that people have to wait for months.
> Production remains the same and people just have to wait. I know this
> since people would walk up to me and ask me how long I waited to get
> the car and comlaint of stock availability plus I have read it in car
> magazines.
>
It wouldn't really make sense in this day that cars should drop in quality
to increase production and sales. To make them wear out sooner maybe or make
them more profitable to build, but to increase volume only poor
design/production decisions would result in worse cars.