Under the Table

Somebody posting a message at FatWallet.com offerred this
advice when buying a new car. Basically, he says to bribe
the salesman. I quote the poster now:

"Its a fact that the average car salesman only sells 8-10 cars
per month. Its also a fact that a "flat", the money a salesman
is going to make on a new car sales with no profit(invoice)
is $50-$100. So do the math thats only $800-$1000 in commission
per month. Thats why dealer are always hiring salesman. Its also
why salesman are constantly getting fired.
GET THE SALESMAN ON YOUR SIDE! Tell him up front he's not gonna
make any money on you, this will be an invoice deal. Tell him
you'll slip him a $100 after the deal if you get your price. So
when he goes up to the "salesdesk", he's fighting for you."

END of quote.

Well, does his advice make sense? Should you give the
salesperson $100 under the table? Will that actually help you
get your price?

Also, what if you've already spoken with the sales *Manager*
directly, and the manager already offerred you INVOICE pricing
minus the current $500 rebate to bring the out-the-door price to
500 dollars under INVOICE. But even that price is still $600
OVER the out-the-door price of a dealer one-hundred miles away.
How would slipping the salesman $100 help you in that situation?
Should you slip the $100 to the sales *Manager*?

Finally, is it ethical to slip either the salesman or
sales manager $100 dollars?

Geeze you haven't bought that Camry yet? Might as well wait for the '07's
now.

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:m5SdnQ1rT8cIdy_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@sysmatrix.ne t...
> Somebody posting a message at FatWallet.com offerred this
> advice when buying a new car. Basically, he says to bribe
> the salesman. I quote the poster now:
>
> "Its a fact that the average car salesman only sells 8-10 cars
> per month. Its also a fact that a "flat", the money a salesman
> is going to make on a new car sales with no profit(invoice)
> is $50-$100. So do the math thats only $800-$1000 in commission
> per month. Thats why dealer are always hiring salesman. Its also
> why salesman are constantly getting fired.
> GET THE SALESMAN ON YOUR SIDE! Tell him up front he's not gonna
> make any money on you, this will be an invoice deal. Tell him
> you'll slip him a $100 after the deal if you get your price. So
> when he goes up to the "salesdesk", he's fighting for you."
>
> END of quote.
>
> Well, does his advice make sense? Should you give the
> salesperson $100 under the table? Will that actually help you
> get your price?
>
> Also, what if you've already spoken with the sales *Manager*
> directly, and the manager already offerred you INVOICE pricing
> minus the current $500 rebate to bring the out-the-door price to
> 500 dollars under INVOICE. But even that price is still $600
> OVER the out-the-door price of a dealer one-hundred miles away.
> How would slipping the salesman $100 help you in that situation?
> Should you slip the $100 to the sales *Manager*?
>
> Finally, is it ethical to slip either the salesman or
> sales manager $100 dollars?

The car salesmen I know make 5-10x that, who can have a family on 9600 a
year

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:m5SdnQ1rT8cIdy_enZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@sysmatrix.ne t...
> Somebody posting a message at FatWallet.com offerred this
> advice when buying a new car. Basically, he says to bribe
> the salesman. I quote the poster now:
>
> "Its a fact that the average car salesman only sells 8-10 cars
> per month. Its also a fact that a "flat", the money a salesman
> is going to make on a new car sales with no profit(invoice)
> is $50-$100. So do the math thats only $800-$1000 in commission
> per month. Thats why dealer are always hiring salesman. Its also
> why salesman are constantly getting fired.
> GET THE SALESMAN ON YOUR SIDE! Tell him up front he's not gonna
> make any money on you, this will be an invoice deal. Tell him
> you'll slip him a $100 after the deal if you get your price. So
> when he goes up to the "salesdesk", he's fighting for you."
>
> END of quote.
>
> Well, does his advice make sense? Should you give the
> salesperson $100 under the table? Will that actually help you
> get your price?
>
> Also, what if you've already spoken with the sales *Manager*
> directly, and the manager already offerred you INVOICE pricing
> minus the current $500 rebate to bring the out-the-door price to
> 500 dollars under INVOICE. But even that price is still $600
> OVER the out-the-door price of a dealer one-hundred miles away.
> How would slipping the salesman $100 help you in that situation?
> Should you slip the $100 to the sales *Manager*?
>
> Finally, is it ethical to slip either the salesman or
> sales manager $100 dollars?

You know, a good sales guy can make a ton of cash. A local Chrysler salesman
just bought a $700k house near me, and his wife is stay at home milf. He has
a lot of toys, and I am sure it's not some inheritance. He said used car
salesguys can actually make even more money. The ruthless nature of the
business is the reason for high turnover. You have two types of salesguys,
newbies and guys that have been there for years and years. The in-between is
the filter.