Origin Sticker question

3 or 4 of my dealer's stock of 25 Camrys were
assembled in "Aichi, Japan."

The origin sticker shows 80 percent
U.S.A./Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.

The engines and the transmissions both come
from Japan in those 3 or 4 cars.

If the sticker says Aichi, Japan, meaning,
I suppose, Aichi Prefecture (or "state/province"),
does that mean the Camrys were assembled in
Toyota's Tahara plant in Tahara City, Aichi??

I'm hoping it does mean that, because J.D.
Power's 2003 IQS Assembly Plant Awards says:

"For the second consecutive year, Toyota's Tahara,
Japan, car plant receives the Platinum award for
worldwide plant quality with a score of 63 PP100.
Toyota sweeps the plant awards in the Asia Pacific
region, with the Motomachi, Japan, assembly plant
receiving the Silver plant award and the Tsutsumi,
Japan, assembly plant receiving the Bronze."

Would anyone happen to know if Toyota has any
other plants in Aichi Prefecture/State/Province
other than the Tahara plant? I'm hoping NOT, because
my dealer's origin stickers only show Aichi, without
making mention of the city or plant.

I'd love if the Camry I buy were built by the
Tahara plant. They are car making gods in
Tahara!

Many Lexi are built there--or is that Lexuses...

My only other concern would be the number of
Camrys built in Aichi? I'm hoping a lot are built
there, since I would guess the quality improves with
the quantity.

In 2003, NUMMI assembled 446,199 Camrys,
Avalons, and Siennas--a large number I think.

Where do most of the Aichi Camrys go, if not
America?

Thanks very much for any insights.

Umm, I meant 462,000 Camrys, Avalons, and Siennas
are assembled in Kentucky, not NUMMI.

It looks like the Aichi Camrys are built in the
Tsutsumi plant, not Tahara. But that's good too. The
Prius is also built in Tsutsumi.

From a maximum reliability perspective, would you buy
the Georgetown, Kentucky Camry or the Tsutsumi
Camry?

, having a little trouble finding out how many
Camrys are built in Tsutsumi...

Hmmm, it looks like there aren't any Siennas built
in Japan at all, but there is something called the
"Sienta" (with a "t") built at the Takaoka plant.
No Avalons built in Japan either, according to
the chart I'm consulting.

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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>3 or 4 of my dealer's stock of 25 Camrys were
> assembled in "Aichi, Japan."

This is an interesting question no one seems to have an answer to. I was
working at a Toyota dealer this summer and noticed most of the new Camrys
were made in the USA. We did have one come in with the Origin Sticker you
mentioned. Same thing: 75% US/Canadian content, 25% Japanese. There were a
few more after that, but most were made in the USA.

If you look at the sticker again, you will notice that the engine and
transmission are of Japanese origiin. Of course, this also happens in about
25% of the cars made in Kentucky.

No one had an answer for me, and I posted this a few months ago when I first
noticed it. My best guess: the bodies are assembled in the US minus the
drive trains, and then put on one of the Marus and sent back to Japan for
final assembly. The reason? Who knows? Perhaps Toyota has to manufacture a
certain amount of autos in Japan to still be considered a Japanese auto
maker (?) It certainly doesn't make much sense to assemble 75% of a car in
Kentucky and then ship it to Japan for the drivetrain; my only other guess
is that they are sending parts to Japan and then assembling them there.
Notice that the sticker only indicates the parts origin and the *FINAL*
assembly, not the entire assembly point of the vehicle!

>
> The origin sticker shows 80 percent
> U.S.A./Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.
>
> The engines and the transmissions both come
> from Japan in those 3 or 4 cars.
>
> If the sticker says Aichi, Japan, meaning,
> I suppose, Aichi Prefecture (or "state/province"),
> does that mean the Camrys were assembled in
> Toyota's Tahara plant in Tahara City, Aichi??
>
> I'm hoping it does mean that, because J.D.
> Power's 2003 IQS Assembly Plant Awards says:
>
> "For the second consecutive year, Toyota's Tahara,
> Japan, car plant receives the Platinum award for
> worldwide plant quality with a score of 63 PP100.
> Toyota sweeps the plant awards in the Asia Pacific
> region, with the Motomachi, Japan, assembly plant
> receiving the Silver plant award and the Tsutsumi,
> Japan, assembly plant receiving the Bronze."
>
> Would anyone happen to know if Toyota has any
> other plants in Aichi Prefecture/State/Province
> other than the Tahara plant? I'm hoping NOT, because
> my dealer's origin stickers only show Aichi, without
> making mention of the city or plant.
>
> I'd love if the Camry I buy were built by the
> Tahara plant. They are car making gods in
> Tahara!
>
> Many Lexi are built there--or is that Lexuses...
>
> My only other concern would be the number of
> Camrys built in Aichi? I'm hoping a lot are built
> there, since I would guess the quality improves with
> the quantity.
>
> In 2003, NUMMI assembled 446,199 Camrys,
> Avalons, and Siennas--a large number I think.
>
> Where do most of the Aichi Camrys go, if not
> America?
>
> Thanks very much for any insights.

FanJet wrote:
>
> Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.

Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.
Dare I say "Linux is to Microsoft" as "Toyota is to Ford."
Remember those word association S.A.T. tests?

I won't mind buying either a Kentucky Camry or an
Aichi Camry--I know both are *Excellent* excellent
cars. But I have to admit, I will be leaning a bit
towards the Aichi/Tsutsumi plant.

I didn't make a close, careful examination of my
dealer's Aichi and Georgetown Camrys. For one thing, it
was freezing outside, and I musta spent 20 minutes just
deciding on whether I liked the Salsa Red Pearl or
Lunar Mist Metallic (silver?) better. Still undecided
on that dour red and odd silver. The Mineral Green
Opalescent is kinda nice though. Too bad the
Camrys don't come in Impulse Red Pearl like the
Corollas--now that's a snazzy car color.

I will say this about the two Camrys. I noticed that
all the domestic Camrys had a driver-side fender top
edge point that didn't fully line up with the lower left
edge of the windshield frame piece. I'm not sure
what the official names of these pieces are.
However, in the Aichi Camrys, they lined up perfectly.

I hate to say it, but I think our Kentucky plant's
management may need to look into this?
Come on guys! I know you can do it. You're probably
almost there.

I will be perfectly happy with either a Georgetown or
Aichi machine.

Still haggling over price. Told my local
dealer that I'm willing to spend only $300 over the
18,200 that I can get from a dealer one-hundred
miles away. Local salesman says he isn't going
lower than 18,900. I suppose we'll see at the end
of the quota month if he really isn't budging and
won't accept my 18,500 offer.

Meanwhile the dealer 100 miles away just emailed me
a lower selling price: 17,988 from his original
18,200. Gee, some dealers just try harder, it seems.

I would prefer buying locally, though. If I wait till
the end of the month (or actually January 3 is when the
$500 rebate expires) and my local dealer really does
not budge from 18,900, do you think its likely
Toyota will renew the rebate for January?

Thanks very much.

BadGolferMan wrote:

> If Linux is so much better why are your Pan
> posts not generating the proper message IDs...

The explanation: For some reason today, my
newsgroup server isn't downloading new messages.
The server is allowing me to post, but that's it.
So I am having to read new messages at the
Google Groups web site and respond by manually
typing in the subject line "Re: Origin Sticker question"

Good question, though.

I'm in the PNW and the majority of the camry's I've seen about here are
"J" VIN. Probably has something to do with the ports and shipping.

I have an '03 "J" VIN camry, and have had several "under warranty"
problems with it. They aren't perfect over there.

Build quality is a function on management not the workers,

mike hunt

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.12.15.02.48.51.88.2584@bbbb.com...
>> It looks like the Aichi Camrys are built in the
>> Tsutsumi plant, not Tahara. But that's good too. The
>> Prius is also built in Tsutsumi.
>>
>> From a maximum reliability perspective, would you buy
>> the Georgetown, Kentucky Camry or the Tsutsumi
>> Camry?
>
> IMO, the longevity of the Camrys assembled in Tsutsumi and Georgetown are
> going to be pretty much the same. I've driven 30 or 40 of each and cannot
> tell the difference.

Built_Well wrote:
> 3 or 4 of my dealer's stock of 25 Camrys were
> assembled in "Aichi, Japan."
>
> The origin sticker shows 80 percent
> U.S.A./Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.
>
> The engines and the transmissions both come
> from Japan in those 3 or 4 cars.
>
> If the sticker says Aichi, Japan, meaning,
> I suppose, Aichi Prefecture (or "state/province"),
> does that mean the Camrys were assembled in
> Toyota's Tahara plant in Tahara City, Aichi??
>
> I'm hoping it does mean that, because J.D.
> Power's 2003 IQS Assembly Plant Awards says:
>
> "For the second consecutive year, Toyota's Tahara,
> Japan, car plant receives the Platinum award for
> worldwide plant quality with a score of 63 PP100.
> Toyota sweeps the plant awards in the Asia Pacific
> region, with the Motomachi, Japan, assembly plant
> receiving the Silver plant award and the Tsutsumi,
> Japan, assembly plant receiving the Bronze."
>
> Would anyone happen to know if Toyota has any
> other plants in Aichi Prefecture/State/Province
> other than the Tahara plant? I'm hoping NOT, because
> my dealer's origin stickers only show Aichi, without
> making mention of the city or plant.
>
> I'd love if the Camry I buy were built by the
> Tahara plant. They are car making gods in
> Tahara!
>
> Many Lexi are built there--or is that Lexuses...
>
> My only other concern would be the number of
> Camrys built in Aichi? I'm hoping a lot are built
> there, since I would guess the quality improves with
> the quantity.
>
> In 2003, NUMMI assembled 446,199 Camrys,
> Avalons, and Siennas--a large number I think.
>
> Where do most of the Aichi Camrys go, if not
> America?
>
> Thanks very much for any insights.

Gosh, it's just a car not a heart-lung machine.

LOL

Built_Well wrote:
> FanJet wrote:
>>
>> Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.
>
>
> Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
> ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.
> Dare I say "Linux is to Microsoft" as "Toyota is to Ford."
> Remember those word association S.A.T. tests?

You can say anything you want but this simply isn't accurate.