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Old 15th December 2005, 11:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> Build quality is a function on management not the workers,
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> mike hunt


Take another sip and go back to sleep!
 
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Old 16th December 2005, 11:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that build
quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

mike hunt

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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> Build quality is a function of management not the workers,
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>> mike hunt

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> Take another sip and go back to sleep!
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Old 16th December 2005, 11:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that
> build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL
>
> mike hunt


When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
your idea.
 
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Old 17th December 2005, 01:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As I have already said, we did expect you to be astute enough to know that
build quality is a function of management, not the workers. You are free
to believe whatever you wish . LOL

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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> We did not really expert that you would astute enough to know that build
>> quality is a function of management, not the workers.
>> mike hunt

>
> When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
> your idea.
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Old 17th December 2005, 05:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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FanJet wrote:

>Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that
>> build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

>
>When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
>your idea.


"Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job. You
make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the first
place.
 
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Old 18th December 2005, 12:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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FanJet wrote:

>dizzy wrote:
>> FanJet wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know
>>>> that build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL
>>>
>>> When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
>>> entertain your idea.

>>
>> "Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
>> ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job. You
>> make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the first
>> place.

>
>BS. As I said:
>"When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
>your idea."


As I said, you're wrong. You haven't figured it out.

>If management hires bubbas, they get what they paid for.


Part of management's job is training Bubba, or replacing him if
needed. Get better tools. Alter the design. Perform checks.
Whatever. Bottom line, quality is managements's responsibility.
Period.
 
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Old 18th December 2005, 10:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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dizzy wrote:
> FanJet wrote:
>
>> dizzy wrote:
>>> FanJet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know
>>>>> that build quality is a function of management not the workers.
>>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
>>>> entertain your idea.
>>>
>>> "Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
>>> ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job.
>>> You make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the
>>> first place.

>>
>> BS. As I said:
>> "When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
>> entertain your idea."

>
> As I said, you're wrong. You haven't figured it out.
>
>> If management hires bubbas, they get what they paid for.

>
> Part of management's job is training Bubba, or replacing him if
> needed. Get better tools. Alter the design. Perform checks.
> Whatever. Bottom line, quality is managements's responsibility.
> Period.


Quality is everyone's responsibility and that should be obvious.
 
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Old 24th December 2005, 10:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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you cant compare a car build in japan with the one build in the
us.remember the 4 cyl vega,ford pinto,or any 4 cyl engines built in
usa.they dont last to long.japanise autos are better than us autos.buy
japanise if you want quality.usa 4 cyl dont last to long.i drive a 94
camry with over 300,000 miles.never rebuilt.if you want to throw your
money away,then get an american car(4 cyl).even volvos,bmws,beat any us
car.i hate to admit that but is real.when i heard that they where going
to build or assemble the toyotas in usa,i said,there will be to many
broken toyotas in the streets.of course,you might dissagree with me,but
the americans can not afford to build good toyotas.they will loose the
sale of american cars.so they will build the toyotas american style(with
their technolgy)
 
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Old 27th December 2005, 03:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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In Japan? It is many more MILLIONS, for sure LOL

mike hunt

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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> By the way, in my previous post, I was blaming American
> *management*, not American/Canadian *Workers*. Like Mike
> Hunter, I also believe quality is a function
> of management.
>
> I think workers are equally competent around the world. So
> if one country makes better cars than another, I would
> guess it's because *MANAGEMENT* is taking short cuts
> to save money--say using inferior parts or following the
> principles of built-in obsolescence or
> lowering quality control all to save money. Yet it
> sure has backfired over the past 2 decades as *Management*
> has led GM and Ford to the brink of bankruptcy.
>
> Does Rick Wagoner really deserve a yearly pay of 4.66 million?
> I have to wonder how much Mister Watanabe and Mr. Suzuki
> of Toyota are making....
 
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Old 28th December 2005, 06:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Hachiroku, would you happen to know the answer to this
question?

For those wonderful Aichi machines on my dealer's
lot that were made in Japan, the parts content shows
80 percent USA/Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.
But the engine and tranz both show the origin as Japan.

Are the engine and transmission counted as a single
part each; how does that work?

Plus, since their origin is Japan, does that mean
the engine and tranz are composed of Japanese parts
exclusively, or perhaps they too contain some
parts from North America?

Thanks a zillion! Your knowledge is vast.
 
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